a question was asked of me last night.
what made you find the forum?
which stopped me in my tracks and opened my mind to ask myself that question.
Hi Pleaseer!
Glad you found the forum! Seems to be the home of the formerly 'lost and lonely' and now 'found and getting there' brigade. I've heard a lot of common sense here that we all need to get away from the JW indoctrination programme. Hope you find all the answers the you need!
after being in the org for 20 years, being regular at every meeting.
i must have sung the songs hundreds of times, but i cant sing the first line of any song off by heart..
i asked my husband, kids if they could, they also cant.. can you?.
You've just brought back bad memories for me.
There was a very elderly brother in our cong who used to play the piano organ for the meeting songs. The elders were always on at him to switch to the pre recorded tapes but since he was still PO he wouldn't.
One memorial meeting, he compromised and recorded himself playing the songs for the memorial. Anyway, the mistake he made was to put the tape recorder on the organ when he was recording.
Came the meeting night, no one had pre listened to the 'music' assuming it would be all right.
The tape was switched on for the first song and out came the sound of one hundred cats being strangled and beaten to death! I kid you not it was that bad!
What was worse still, the congregation carried on singing the song over this dreadful racked, unsure what else to do.
No guidance from any one, the sound attendant dare not turn the tape off because, after all it was the PO who was playing the wretched instrument.
Finally the PO, red face, marched to the back of the hall and switched the tape off and the congregation carried on singing unaccompanied.
What was funny was people's reaction afterwards. Not that they found it funny, but they were ashamed because of all the studies, new ones and relatives they had brought along to the memorial, and what a bad witness this would be.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=15134837&method=full&siteid=50143&headline=sutcliffe-walked--free--name_page.html
sutcliffe walked 'free' .
jan 31 2005. .
Victims are forgotten very quickly, aren't they?
They have no chance of walking down a beach again, or saying goodbye to their parents when they die.
These were only women, and some of them women who worked as prostitutes so....perhaps they hold less charm in the minds of the public.
But the criminal. Now he's the 'star'. He's the one everyone wants to know about. Idiot women write to him and claim to love him and care for him. The prison system allows him a walk of the beach.
And the victims....
I have always been and always will be against the death sentence simply because it's a way of escape from the terrible punishment that is prison. We, the non murderers, rapists, paedophiles...are capable of acting in a far better way that 'they' the criminals. But to allow him a day out for normal human pursuits....
The victims will never get a day out on the beach, for whatever reason.
But the victims are forgotten and just bunched up in one single word 'Victims' and still being victimised.
new here, so, should i be crossing any lines, i ask your pardon.
recently i asked a question within another's post on the meaning of "junior, senior" statements/levels.
the response i received within that post( and thank you ) was that it had to do with the "number of posts" one has/had made.
Welcome Nowino!
We don't respect people here for being blabber mouths!
It's the essence of what people say that counts and how we are all gradually moving furthur and furthur away from the bOrg and emerging as ourselves. We learn from eachother and I"ve found that the vast majority here are supportive and TOLERANT of eachother's changing and developing views.
Tolerance, now that's a word you can't associate with the WTBTS, can you?
Hope you stay and enjoy!
The classes are just fun!
Holly - Are your kids threatening to use you computers parental controls on you for excessive time on the net.
Mine are! Little swine!
Best wishes, Gill
i think i am goin through it.
can someone else tell me when, how long etc that you go through this?
my symptoms are hot flashes, irritability, etc.
Stillajwexelder!
You'll just have to let her persuade you!
Often though, men of that age are just working too hard and too tired by the evening.
Reschedule your sex life and you'll find you're just as randy as in your teens!
Escape from work, ie take days off here and there just for sex, if you can take the time off.
Once you get caught in this pattern that teenagers find themselves in, where they have to plan and grab whatever time they can, it soon becomes addictive. You'll soon rekindle any interest lost to tiredness!
Take Zinc supplements and eat meat, lots of it! It contains Zinc!
does any one remember young filip, who used to post on this site?.
he was the lad who didn't want to be a jw any more and had the militaristic, control freak father?.
he was worried his parents would be able to track his activities on the net.. if you're reading this 'filip' just let us know you're ok!.
Does any one remember young filip, who used to post on this site?
He was the lad who didn't want to be a JW any more and had the militaristic, control freak father?
Any one know if he's OK? He was worried his parents would be able to track his activities on the net.
If you're reading this 'filip' just let us know you're OK!
Thanks luv!
i think i am goin through it.
can someone else tell me when, how long etc that you go through this?
my symptoms are hot flashes, irritability, etc.
Hi upside/down!
Yup! Men get the menopause too, just in their case it's the Testo pause. They begin to lose their sex drive, get extra pudgy round the middle, extra irritable (grumpy old men syndrome!) etc. Their testosterone levels begin to dip.
Their is herbal and vitamin supplement therapy available which works for this problem too!
So don't start to worry about it!
i'm asking your opinion today and probably venting my spleen a little as well, i'm afraid.. we all agree, i've noticed that shunning, for the jw reasons is wrong and even downright wicked.. however, my husband will no longer speak to or acknowledge his parents, after years of being a very good, infact, too good a son to them.. i posted a while ago about the ongoing problem with our jw families.
we wanted to take in my husbands very elderly grandfather but his parents would not allow it because we are faded jws.
we found a letter while reading through grandpa's cards in which, my mother-in-law had slandered us terribly and my family.
Hi Brenda!
I wish we could do that but they have full and legal control of him because of the paper that he signed. The only way to sort that would be for him to revoke that and sign one in our favour. We don't want him to sign anything. Now he has been diagnosed with dementia, which he had when he signed the form any way, what ever he does can be questioned.
We have a plan up our sleeves though.
my wife and i have been disassociated for about 2 months now.
every day in our small town we are being shunned by former friends.
one in particular annoyed me today.
Gary! You're so right.
In the end, you just have to pity them and give a little 'shun-shine' back!
i think i am goin through it.
can someone else tell me when, how long etc that you go through this?
my symptoms are hot flashes, irritability, etc.
Hi Country Girl!
Will look it up and get back to you tomorrow for more infor.
Your doctor should be able to give you a blood test to verify your blood hormone levels.
I believe, hot flashes can last for several years but can be almost totally relieved with herbal treatments and dietary changes. No tea or coffee, very little meat, lots of veg, fruit, soya products etc.
As I said, will get back to you tomorrow.
Gill
