A cult definition was shown on this topic. So I understood what the Cult was and it was not my religion at all. It is not a distorted view since it is a way of life for many. It is not just a passing cult but it will stand to time indefinite in Jehovah's New System of things. This system is like the Titanic. You never saw the captain of the Titanic trying to patch up the hole did you?
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by Beans in.
let us not forget how the watchtower views themselves!
edited by - beans on 10 august 2002 11:29:50.
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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You are beyond any help and reason from me Crazydrinka, stop trying to refer to me about your troubles. Oh and go to the adult section when you feel your gut feelings coming on.
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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Jehovah did design Jesus and made all things. Jesus helped Jehovah since he was his first creation. Is that so hard to understand? I have knowledge from the Bible that shows Jesus being the one who helped design. This is basic knowledge for a Jehovah's Witness. Explains why Jesus came down to help mankind as well. Did you need more information ozziepost?
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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Ozziepost, Could you make a few more thoughts about that since I have no idea where you got that information from.
[larc] made that same claim that I know nothing about the second death and still shows no remorse after I spent some time to show him I do know some basic Bible knowledge.
lark, Since you know what the WT says, why are you still asking me?
Just saying this is not what they teach is not good enough for me. Show me some Bible principles that are not being used in the Watchtower and then maybe I can show a thing or two.
In other words, "Give a dog a bone".
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Hellfire loves "Dumbass people".
by Bleep inany questions about hellfire are welcome.
the only response i got from crazydrinker was, "youre a dumbass".
rofl .
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Here we have two claims made my Crazydrinka,
One is I have no accurate knowledge of the Bible. I have shown that I have the accurate knowledge that the NWT brings out. See the scriptures I referenced to? My information might be limited to Bible knowledge; would that be such a bad thing?
The other claim is that I do not use ethics. What principle of ethics did I break? I did not try to disclose confidential info. I did not violate the do no harm principle and so on here is the list in case you need them again> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34125&site=3&page=1
Stop trying to fool me, I know my rights on this forum.
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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/////A Brief History of hellfire By the Watchtower July 15, 2002 quoting the Bible.
"When did professed Christians adopt the belief in hellfire? Well after the time of Jesus Christ and his apostles. The Apocalypse of Peter (2nd century C.E.) was the first [apocryphal] Christian work to describe the punishment and tortures of sinners in hell," states the French Encyclopedia Universalis.
Among the early Church Fathers, however, there was disagreement over hell. Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, and Cyprian believed that hell was a fiery place. Origen and theologian Gregory of Nyssa thought of hell was a fiery place. Origen and theologian Gregory of Nyssa thought hell as a place of separation from God-of spiritual suffering. Augustine of Hippo, on the other hand, held that suffering in hell was both spiritual and sensory- a view that gained acceptance! By the fifth century the stern doctrine that sinners will have NO second chance after this life and that the fire which will devour them will never be extinguished was everywhere paramount," wrote Professor J.N.D Kelly.
In the 16th century, such Protestant reformers as Martin Luther and John Calvin understood the fiery torment of hell to be figurative of separated from God. However, the idea of hell as a place of torment returned in the following two centuries. Protestant preacher Jonathan Edwards used to strike fear in the hearts of 18- century Colonial Americans with graphic portrayals of hell.
Shortly thereafter, though, the flames of hell began to flicker and fade. "The 20th century was nearly the death of hell." states U.S. News & World Report."
My two cents are. First off we get another chance in life. We do not get judged when we die and either goes to heaven or hell. We go to the common grave called hell waiting for Jesus to call us out. Of course Jehovah remembers our DNA and restores us into a living condition.
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Hellfire loves "Dumbass people".
by Bleep inany questions about hellfire are welcome.
the only response i got from crazydrinker was, "youre a dumbass".
rofl .
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/////A Brief History of hellfire By the Watchtower July 15, 2002 quoting the Bible.
"When did professed Christians adopt the belief in hellfire? Well after the time of Jesus Christ and his apostles. The Apocalypse of Peter (2nd century C.E.) was the first [apocryphal] Christian work to describe the punishment and tortures of sinners in hell," states the French Encyclopedia Universalis.
Among the early Church Fathers, however, there was disagreement over hell. Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, and Cyprian believed that hell was a fiery place. Origen and theologian Gregory of Nyssa thought of hell was a fiery place. Origen and theologian Gregory of Nyssa thought hell as a place of separation from God-of spiritual suffering. Augustine of Hippo, on the other hand, held that suffering in hell was both spiritual and sensory- a view that gained acceptance! By the fifth century the stern doctrine that sinners will have NO second chance after this life and that the fire which will devour them will never be extinguished was everywhere paramount," wrote Professor J.N.D Kelly.
In the 16th century, such Protestant reformers as Martin Luther and John Calvin understood the fiery torment of hell to be figurative of separated from God. However, the idea of hell as a place of torment returned in the following two centuries. Protestant preacher Jonathan Edwards used to strike fear in the hearts of 18- century Colonial Americans with graphic portrayals of hell.
Shortly thereafter, though, the flames of hell began to flicker and fade. "The 20th century was nearly the death of hell." states U.S. News & World Report."
My two cents are. First off we get another chance in life. We do not get judged when we die and either goes to heaven or hell. We go to the common grave called hell waiting for Jesus to call us out. Of course Jehovah remembers our DNA and restores us into a living condition.
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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They will have another chance...
///Hell Emptied!
Revelation 20:13 states: "The sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them." Yes, the Bible hell will be emptied. As Jesus promosed, "the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear [Jesus'] voice and come out." (John 5:28,29) Although no longer presently existing in any form, millions of dead ones who are in Jehovah God's memory will be resurrected, or brought back to life, in a restored earthly paradise. -Luke 23:43; Acts 24:15.
In the new world of God's making, resurected humans who comply with his reghteous laws will never need to die again. (Isaiah 25:8) Jehovah "will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore." In fact, "the former things [will] have passed away." (Revelation 21:4) Do you know why? They will be perfect and they will be in an earthly paradise. Example of that would be no floods or no tornadoes ect.
What a blessing is in store for those in hell - "the memorial tombs"! This blessing indeed is reason enough for us to take in some more knowledge of Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus Christ. -John 17:3
What Doctrine am I making up again? Jesus died for all mankind.
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A Cult
by Beans in.
let us not forget how the watchtower views themselves!
edited by - beans on 10 august 2002 11:29:50.
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True it is not up building going to a public school; at least they dont try to have 40% of the catholic people attend. They are now having trouble with young people having an active sex life. They are at the should we promote safe sex stage. They should be applying the abstain from sex until married stage.
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IS the NWT really the WT Bible?
by Bleep injust wondered how many people this this is all true.
feel free to really think about this one and provide proof and examples.
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Anyone could be called a god in those days. We all know who THE God is so that would take care of the problem of thinking Jesus being the sovereign ruler. He helped design but did not create things. Only the Father could create. Satan is the god of this system of things. Many people like to put blame on anybody except Satan, including the propaganda made by this site.