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  CO kept mispronouncing "debt"

  by Red Piller in

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  2. experiences

  so, this happened a while ago - but i never posted on it.

  during a co visit, he gave a talk relating to jesus ransom (i think) and the "debt" that was owed by sin, etc.... he kept saying "debt" and he kept pronouncing the "b".

  so it sounded like "deb-t".

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  If you're the smartest person in the room, get out of the room.
  
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  Who exactly is an apostate?

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you are a non-believing relative or spouse who is hostile to their doctrine are you an apostate?

  if you studied with them and rang the logical fallacy buzzer for chits and giggles to see how they would react does this make you an apostate?.

  if you are a born in who never got baptised does this make you an apostate?.

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  hm

  "• Deliberately spreading teachings contrary
  to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses:"

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  "• Deliberately spreading teachings contrary
  to Bible truth:"
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  Please help me figure out my dreams

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  2. friends

  hi everyone, this may be the stupidest post ever.

  i am stumped for an answer and would love to hear your opinions, though.

  every week or two for the last couple of years, i have a dream--or at least that's what i'm calling it--that consists of me waking up or thinking that i've waked up, and seeing the ceiling of my darkened bedroom filled with algebraic equations.

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  You are experiencing equation deficiency syndrome. Several equations will give you that forbidden sensation of witnessing real world sorcery.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virial_theorem

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler%27s_laws_of_planetary_motion
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  Factions, or flip-flops, or both?

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do the individual article writers have persistently opposing views, or do they each just flip-flop between opposing views?.

  what have you observed?.

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  It'd be interesting to see contemporary articles checked with Turnitin or other plagiarism detection software, against all previous articles.
  
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  What are the Witnesses Afraid Of ?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if the witnesses have the truth and have been going to meetings for many years and every week they learn how to be effective in the ministry and learn about the bible on sundays and every week have a family worship night, why are they afraid to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with them or question their beliefs?

  if they have the truth then nothing can refute it.

  the truth is the truth.

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  They do not have the first understanding of what the word truth means. Take this coarse-grained stab at this very general idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth . They do not have the first thing approaching the generally accepted definition of truth. They falsely advertise their afterlife product. It is the same degree of fraud as when they dare to breathe the word "accurate". They simply have no practiced, experienced, lived, vetted, calibrated, sensation of what truth is. It is just a ho 'nother planet.
  
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  WT is trying to scare off memorial partakers

  by cookiemaster in

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  2. beliefs

  i don't know how many of you still participate in the sunday wt study, but i unfortunately still do.

  even though i was asleep half of the time, i did notice something i thought i should share with the rest, in case you haven't noticed.

  a lot of the paragraphs were worded strongly against partaking and used clear language of intimidation and discouragement toward anyone thinking of partaking.

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  Someone should incorporate marijuana into the unleavened cakes, which is exactly what Jesus said to do in remembrance of him.
  
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  Is anything holy?

  by Half banana in

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  2. beliefs

  is anything holy?.

  i would maintain that holiness can only come from the attitude of people ascribing something as holy.

  holiness never comes from the "holy" object, spirit or humans described as being holy..

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  Recommend Carl Sagan's Contact, page 153, where he talks about the 'numinous'.
  
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  Standardized or United in Love ?

  by TheFadingAlbatros in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  one of the main trigger points who brought me to decide to officially separate myself from the jw org.by very recenly sending my letter of dissociation was reached when i became fully aware that the jw.org is standardizing their flock with their repeated manipulations and new lights instead of uniting them with love.

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  and once fully standardized according to the jw.org standards it is very difficult for a jw to have normal and human contact with "worldly" not standardized people.. thanks for reading and take care..

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  Hm, interesting. The phrase "united in love" in the hands of the cult could be taken to mean a gaussian distribution of like-minded persons that cluster around some median appreciation of what Jehovah's organization is doing on earth. Or, maybe like-minded persons who cluster around the median pace of Jehovah's celestial chariot and do not lag behind it nor run ahead of it. Statistical outliers can be clipped (sigma clipping) or disfellowshipped to preserve the narrative fiction / fictional narrative that Jehovah's people occupy the central two standard deviations and are therefore representative of what Jehovah wants.

  Relatedly, standardization of inputs, machinery and processes in an assembly line reduces overhead and improves economies of scale. A standardized cart-stander-by-person is replaceable, interchangeable, reprogrammable, re-excitable, re-distractable, re-deceivable, re-defraudable.
  
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  Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

  earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

  and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

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  I find a little more clarity in the mechanism of shunning by configuring that WTS holds your family and circle of friends hostage, and will execute them (socially) if you make the wrong move. As far as analogies go, You cannot be dead to Them because You are permitted to speak back to Them, as if from the grave. But they are not permitted to speak back to you, if from the grave. There is no confirmation of afterlife, as it were, when your family and friends still in the cult are executed. The lever or moment arm that the WTS has over you is the power to prevent You from hearing Them. Not Them hearing You. Not much different from a Black Hole, out of which no information emerges. The threat they hold over you is to kick you out of that black hole, so that your family and friends are inaccessible and dead to you. If you are shunned, you are the survivor and they have executed all those you once loved. They did as they threatened for all those years - they killed your family. (I've had a lot of time to chew on how to think about this. ) YMMV
  
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  shunning is so unloveing so unmerciful that it if practiced bible says you deserve death romans 1;;32 and entire chap

  by poopie in

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  2 the judgment is there stop shunning and jehovahs burning anger will turn back continue and you will fall into the judgment of romans chap 2 .

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  There's got to be a chart or table that lists the shunning, excommunication, banishment, etc practices in general feature against the sum total population of that particular religion. I cannot bet that the Catholic church with its version of excommunication can shine a candle to the general catastrophic mental, emotional, psychological and other damage that results from WTS disfellowshipping/disassociation practice. WTS is holding your entire family and circle of friends hostage at gun point. If you seek to jump the Berlin Wall, they execute them. At this primitive level, you do not even have the capacity for open-mindedness. They are 'not even wrong' because you are not even able -at this primitive level of coercion- to evaluate claims. They *could be "wrong" if you *could do independent research and then choose to stay out of a cost-benefit rationale. (Recalling the Terry 'not even wrong' thread. Wrong means testable. WTS prevents testing.)