There's got to be a chart or table that lists the shunning, excommunication, banishment, etc practices in general feature against the sum total population of that particular religion. I cannot bet that the Catholic church with its version of excommunication can shine a candle to the general catastrophic mental, emotional, psychological and other damage that results from WTS disfellowshipping/disassociation practice. WTS is holding your entire family and circle of friends hostage at gun point. If you seek to jump the Berlin Wall, they execute them. At this primitive level, you do not even have the capacity for open-mindedness. They are 'not even wrong' because you are not even able -at this primitive level of coercion- to evaluate claims. They *could be "wrong" if you *could do independent research and then choose to stay out of a cost-benefit rationale. (Recalling the Terry 'not even wrong' thread. Wrong means testable. WTS prevents testing.)