Posts by blondie

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Do You Think People Have Forgotten About 9/11?

by minimus in

jw
friends

after all these years, it seems to me that people do not properly take note of what happened on this date in 2001. for some, it’s like nothing major happened.

for me it is a day of reflection..

blondie

Even President Trump made a slip and called the date 7-11 not 9-11.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-7-11/

It has been 18 years since that happened. I wonder how many people have been born since 9-11-2001? How many were even old enough then to understand it, live through it.

I remember where I was on that date, far from home, not being able to sleep, I turned on the news and saw the news and woke up my husband. We stayed up until the last tower fell, packed up and drove to the nearest military installation (I have contacts). Then we stayed there until things started calming down. Commercial airlines/airports were shut down and many people were stranded and the phones were flooded. We had a van, so we found people that were heading in our direction, piled them in with their belongings, women and children. And drove 2,000 miles dropping people off as we went. Now I will never forget that. I knew how bad it was as soon as I saw the planes and the first strike. I grew up around jets and know what a fully fueled jet crash looks like.

I will never understand what people went through when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor; but the relatives back a generation did and shared their experiences and feelings. If your experience with an event is just through books, news, etc., long after the fact, it will never be the same as talking to various people from many walks of life or living it yourself.

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Cringe in December

by neat blue dog in

oh boy, the meetings lined up for december are culty.. it all starts with a 5 minute talk someone has to give on the topic "why should we not be troubled by the increase of memorial partakers in recent years?".

the next week again inserts jws into bible prophecy, first with "the earth swallowed up the river", which claims that court victories for the org are really god's doing.

there is no mention on who is responsible for the many judgements against the org.. then there's this chart to be discussed that same night:.

blondie

But all partakers are not genuine anointed per the WTS. The WTS has said that shortly into the new system, survivors would be provided lists of those who really went to heaven.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1962090#h=1:0-9:919

● Will the great crowd of “other sheep” who survive Armageddon know whether their companions of the remnant proved faithful and gained the prize of immortality or not?—F. C., United States.

Yes, it seems reasonable to conclude that just who comprise the 144,000 members of the body of Christ will be common knowledge to those of the “other sheep” living in the post-Armageddon new world. Relevant thereto is Psalm 87:5, 6, which reads: “And respecting Zion it will be said: ‘Each and every one was born in her.’ And the Most High himself will firmly establish her. Jehovah himself will declare, when recording the peoples: ‘This is one who was born there.’”

That this should be the case is most reasonable. Certainly at the present time we know, because of the Scriptural record, that certain ones received Jehovah’s approval in times of old, which information is encouraging to us. So for those of the post-Armageddon new world to know that certain ones proved faithful and received the glorious reward of immortality would likewise prove an incentive to faithfulness to them. Their faithful devotion would be recalled by those that knew them, in keeping with the principle stated at Hebrews 13:7: “Remember those who are governing you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out imitate their faith.”

------------------genuine anointed quotes

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=%22genuine+anointed%22&p=sen&r=newest

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2019 Elders Manual and a Whole Lot More!

by Atlantis in

single zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-uiqj87wimd.

2019-02-02-musical preludeshttps://we.tl/t-zyfpnodizd.

s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdfhttps://we.tl/t-i9qamx3s0q.

blondie

Rub a Dub, I would contact the OP Atlantis for a link. Send him a private message on JWN.

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Trump Derangement Syndrome Is Alive and Well

by minimus in

jw
friends

i was on facebook and a person i have known for a long time posted how trump is mentally ill and is truly a psychopath.

a couple of her friends chimed in when i suggested that perhaps the fb friend was really the psychopath.

a couple of her friends began to defend her but i was surprised by how many people defended the president!

blondie

Wasn't Bolton selected in April 2018? What did President Trump say about Bolton's selection and qualifications then? I have searched by can only find items about recent events.

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one picture too far ( fetched)

by waton in

july 2019 wt mag.

study article 27, to sept 8 (last weak) sic intended.

page 5. .

blondie

waton, I was thinking the same thing

"Listener. : and not to forget that this time in the presence of unbaptized persons in counted as "service time", by both parents, as part of the 10 minutes + that every human on this planet receives each year."

jw parents are only allowed to count 4 hours each month (4 hrs/dad; 4 hrs/mom). If there are now 2 trips roundtrip to the KH each week, 4 one-way trips; 4 weeks x 4 = 16 trips x time it takes to go one-way to the KH, (10 minutes is quite short let's make it 20 minutes), 16 x 20 minutes =320 minutes divided by 60 = 5+ hours. Thus the parents don't have to have a real study at all with their children, but can only count 4 of the 5 hours.

I can see lots of ways of expanding this time. In my observation and those of the elders, maybe 10% of the families have a formal study with their children.

Singing would be a win win situation.

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Abuse reporting law passes Victoria, Australia Parliament

by AndersonsInfo in

https://7news.com.au/politics/abuse-reporting-law-passes-vic-parliament-c-445627?utm_campaign=share-icons&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&tid=1568152669571&fbclid=iwar2mvjbkt-nlu3tx-rmifxynagtcec1ad8lm4zcn2-f3zloqpd8xb1jamsi.

victorian parliament has passed laws making it mandatory for priests to report child abuse, including when it is revealed to them during confession.. a bill introduced by the state labor government passed the upper house on tuesday after last week getting a green light from the legislative assembly, with opposition support.. "today we've made victoria a safer place for children.

the special treatment for churches has ended and child abuse must be reported," child protection minister luke donnellan said in a statement....

blondie

Yay, Barbara. Another significant step along the way in helping protect children from being abused by their so-called religious protectors.

Thanks for all your hard work and all the others who have helped along the way. This is not the end of the road but a reason to double down on these efforts.

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The impact and consequences of being born into the jehovahs witness cult.

by RayoFlight2014 in

hi from new south wales australia.

fyi , it's tuesday 10th september 2:36am here.. i am categorically not going to blame the cult for every poor choice.

i am conscious of the fact that i was at a genetically determined disadvantage academically; i was never going to be outstanding in my achievements, no matter how hard i tried.

blondie

I come from a different category, born into family with only one jw parent, mother. (if the only jw is the father, that has its own dynamics depending on how much the non-jw father exercises or is allowed to exercise his head of the household authority).

In my case, I lived in a limbo like status. Not good enough for the KH crowd, my father's worldliness might be catching; but viewed with suspicion by non-jws hoping especially when my mother went into full conversion mode. They were confused when they saw here doing things that they knew were not allowed by the WTS.

If we wanted to do something not jw-approved, we would just say my father said we had to do it. As long as it was not a df'ing issue the KH elders would back off. (I know some elders would still try to interfere, but not the ones who knew my father).

I was in a situation that I had little control over. When I started getting some control over things, I made my move. I had plenty non-jw contacts in school, the neighbors, father's friends and workmates, so I had escapes and support. I have always been on the border, PIMO, for a long time before I realized that I should become POMO.

Family is not all the tv happy happy scenario for non-jws. There would have been no guarantee that if neither of my parents had been jws that things would have been better. Actually, I think it would have been much worse; at least we had time away from our father who was not a nice man at all to his children.

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New Armageddon date?

by neat blue dog in

looking at the most recent wt the study article focuses on the jubilees.

the made a separate box in the article to highlight the math behind jubilees, and i'm wondering if they're trying to get people thinking and stir up the pot without actually making a false prophecy.

for instance: jubilees happened every 7 times 7 years.

blondie

Yes, with the scriptures and a little imagination you can validate any so-called prophetic date. Before 1879 many dates were used, the WTS just borrowed them or fused 2 or more together.

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The myth, lie that Christendom has hid Gods name, all of these Centuries.

by smiddy3 in

it has been well documented that jehovah`s witnesses have long claimed that christendom has hidden the name of god for centuries.. and that they alone have restored that name in the last century,.

making it known in all of the earth for a witness.. nothing could be further from the truth .. 1.justus martinus a 13th century spanish monk took the four hebrew letters of the tetragrammaton for gods name and added vowels to those consonants and came up with hebrew letters to english jhvh and the vowels he added e o a. which amounted to jehovah ,remember this was in the thirteenth century by a spanish catholic monk.. 2.this name persisted throughout the centuries to this day ,in many so of christendoms writings etc,etc.. 3.churches of christendoms religions throughout the world have the name jehovah in stone on them engraved since that 13th century .

4.in the 1970`s if i remember correctly their was an international convention held around the world in which the jw`s released a publication of the conventions and the churches of christendom to the delegates showing these churches many of which had the name jehovah engraved in stone on them.......centuries old churches.

blondie

JeffT, when I was still a jw, I brought up that same thought as a question to several jws. How could god protect the bible but not his name.

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one picture too far ( fetched)

by waton in

july 2019 wt mag.

study article 27, to sept 8 (last weak) sic intended.

page 5. .

blondie

After 45 years as a jw in several congregations throughout the US and Europe, I never saw any jws sing as they traveled in the car. Most jws are very poor singers due to lack of real effort, just singing at meetings.

I think most of the jws I knew that are still alive, are chuckling inward when they saw that picture.