Posts by blondie

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I need sources for all the times JWs have expected Harmageddon

by Etude in

i expect that 2 new jw guys in the area are going to revisit me.

the left some brochures emphasizing how bad the world is and talking about the end.

i need to break through with examples (wt articles, publication excerpts, etc) so that they can gag a bit.

blondie

Why for years did the WTS say that miscarried babies would not be resurrected?

Still in 2009 the WTS dances around the answer to this which still implies that they would not be?

If miscarried babies are not to be resurrected, then they were not really alive, how is that different than abortion?

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2009285#h=1:0-18:56

Does all of this mean, then, that the Bible teaches that children who perish before birth will be resurrected? We must emphasize that the Bible does not directly answer that question, so there is no basis for humans (or the GB, my comment) to be dogmatic on the matter. This subject may give rise to an almost endless variety of questions. Really, though, it seems best to avoid speculation. What we know is this: The matter rests with Jehovah God, who is abundant in loving-kindness and mercy. (Ps. 86:15) Unquestionably, it is his heartfelt desire to undo death by means of the resurrection. (Job 14:14, 15) We can be confident that he always does what is right. He will provide healing for the many wounds inflicted upon us by life in this wicked system of things as he lovingly directs his Son to “break up the works of the Devil.”—1 John 3:8.

---the WTS says that "the Bible does not say but" and then goes on to speculate.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=%22the+bible+does+not+say+but%22&p=sen&r=newest

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See you in a couple weeks

by Biahi in

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friends

leaving today for rome, and then a mediterranean cruise.

will not be online, i will miss you all.

hopefully, when i get back, the wt will have declared bankruptcy.

blondie

DOC, I actually said that to some elders after explaining how I had been treated by WTS members over the last 40 years in many congregations. I gave specific examples especially those in their congregation. They did not disagree with me. I asked, "If every time I came, I was slapped literally in the face, wouldn't you want to stay out of slapping range? I think you would.? Why then would I want to be in the "paradise" with the same people?"

Who would want to live in a world that's all JWs? How could that be "paradise"?

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The serpent in the Garden can’t be secretly Satan

by Doug Mason in

we know that the serpent in the garden can’t be secretly satan, because the first time satan is mentioned by name is in a story chronologically after this one, and in that, he is said to be walking.

remember that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly all the rest of his days, but in the book of job, satan is still walking around and chatting with god as if they’d never had a falling out.

this is when god had to ask satan where he’s been, because his infallible omniscience obviously didn’t know.. so if he had to ask that of satan, who is later described as the lord of lies, then why would god believe him?

blondie

Nice summary, peaceful pete. No wonder the WTS does not want its members to do outside research.

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Why Register (R) jw dot org?

by pixel in

so, on paragraph 9 of last's week wt study (number 30), i see the are showing the registered symbol next to jw.borg.

why would you register a website in that circusntance?

i've never seem that before.

blondie

pixel, perhaps the WTS are worried that non-WT entities will grab that symbol up and twist it for their purposes. The WTS has been very diligent watching the internet for such websites.

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Babylon The Great / World Empire of False Religion, do JW`s even preach that anymore ?

by smiddy3 in

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when was that first preached , with the book babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rules ,the 1970`s ?

where they claimed that false religion had a fall in 1919 and that it was continuing to that day .

however today we see not babylon the great that is falling ,but the jehovah`s witnesses religion that are on the decline ,selling off branches , kingdom halls in one place after another throughout the earth .. and only a couple of years ago they were predicting they would be needing thousands of kingdom halls to be built for the expected influx of new worshippers ?

blondie

Per WTS complicated opinion, Babylon the Great, all false religions, WTS only true religion

Subset: Christendom represented by BTG's daughters

For example, after the Council of Nicaea, Constantine, who was present at the council, ordered Arius, a dissenting priest, into exile because Arius refused to acknowledge Jesus as God. Later, under Emperor Theodosius I (379-395 C.E.), the Catholic Church, as the contaminated form of Christianity came to be known, became the official religion of the Roman Empire. Historians refer to pagan Rome as having been “Christianized” in the fourth century. The truth is that by that time an apostate form of Christianity had joined the pagan religious organizations of the Roman Empire as members of Babylon the Great.

Babylon the Great is seen as consorting with the UN, "the image of the scarlet-colored wild beast"

scarlet-colored wild beast

What does the Bible foretell will be the final destiny of this globe-encircling harlot? In symbolic language, the book of Revelation describes her destruction at the hands of political elements. These are symbolized by “ten horns” that support the United Nations, “a scarlet-colored wild beast” that is the image of Satan’s bloodstained political system.—Revelation 16:2; 17:3-16.*

Jehovah will destroy “the great prostitute” by means of “the ten horns” of “a scarlet-colored wild beast.” That figurative wild beast represents the United Nations.

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ANOTHER DEAD in ITALY because of REFUSING BLOOD

by Eliseo in

http://www.paesenews.it/?p=172570.

blondie

Good point Crazyguy2; one I shared with jws while I was still in, but only asking as a question saying I was confused about why hemoglobin-based products made with expired human blood was now a conscience matter. It pays to appear humble looking for guidance.

Especially when they can get Hemopure (cows blood ) and the GB are ok with it!

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/202006400

http://ajwrb.org/watchtower-approved-blood-transfusions

https://www.ohsu.edu/sites/default/files/2019-08/Wurzburger.pdf

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Killers of The Flower Moon by David Grann

by smiddy3 in

i am presently reading this book and so far have read only 100 pages and it boggles my mind !!.

has anybody on the board read it ?

if so i would like to hear your views on it,if not now after i have finished reading it myself lol.

blondie

https://deadline.com/2017/04/martin-scorsese-leonardo-dicaprio-eric-roth-killers-of-the-flower-moon-movie-david-grann-book-1202073488/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/7581191/killers-of-the-flower-moon-leonardo-di-caprio-david-grann-book/

We should know more towards the end of the year or early 2019 who else is in the cast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjvrSS-UXU&list=PL0LKIR5xtjNF3mz1-a00FDLj3T4MALWbH&index=3&t=0s

I have been reading this book as well; I am 12% (1/8) Native American (great-grandmother 100%). I saw a history news item about this event and have been reading the true history of the killings. In WI, I have been researching the Blackhawk Wars, the killing site is very near where I live. It lead me to the Osage story.

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS393

https://www.historynet.com/black-hawk-war

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Finding a faith that is stronger than death — or my family’s rejection

by Tahoe in

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my mother would be surprised that i did not die alone.. and that, in the end, about 25 people had volunteered to take care of me when i couldn’t do that for myself anymore.. it’s one thing, after you find out you’re going to die from metastatic colorectal cancer, to ask people to bring your favorite kind of gatorade.

it’s quite another to ask them to stand in the place of dna-sharing family and walk through hospice with you, but that’s what i had to do.. at the age of 23, i turned away from the family of jehovah’s witnesses who raised me.they had wanted me to be an uber-witness.

so my family forbade me to go to college and instead raised me to be a full-time, door-to-door minister who converted people to their way of thinking — i actually succeeded with one in about 15 years of trying — and to pay my bills by working menial jobs.. every meaningful connection in my life was through a local congregation of witnesses, known as the kingdom hall.

blondie

Here a few more comments about Heidi's life:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6303791820308480/heidi-hall-life-after-wts-good-read

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The serpent in the Garden can’t be secretly Satan

by Doug Mason in

we know that the serpent in the garden can’t be secretly satan, because the first time satan is mentioned by name is in a story chronologically after this one, and in that, he is said to be walking.

remember that the serpent was cursed to crawl on his belly all the rest of his days, but in the book of job, satan is still walking around and chatting with god as if they’d never had a falling out.

this is when god had to ask satan where he’s been, because his infallible omniscience obviously didn’t know.. so if he had to ask that of satan, who is later described as the lord of lies, then why would god believe him?