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  Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

  by smiddy3 in

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  i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

  where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

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  blondie

  I should have added a qualifier, where Jesus used the name Jehovah or equivalent outside of the scriptures he quoted.
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  See you in a couple weeks

  by Biahi in

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  leaving today for rome, and then a mediterranean cruise.

  will not be online, i will miss you all.

  hopefully, when i get back, the wt will have declared bankruptcy.

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  blondie

  Biahi, when you get back let me know. I'm sure you are having a great time. The closest I ever was to the Mediterranean was my visit to Italy.
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  Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.

  my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.

  there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.

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  blondie

  I have no background in non-jw writings on Adam and Eve: Leolaia was a source but she no longer posts on JWN that I can tell. peaceful pete, has been doing research in non-jw writings (scholarly) about Adam and Eve. He might have suggestions.

  There are others on here that have shared such info. Hopefully, they will see your post and chime in.
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  Babylon The Great / World Empire of False Religion, do JW`s even preach that anymore ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when was that first preached , with the book babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rules ,the 1970`s ?

  where they claimed that false religion had a fall in 1919 and that it was continuing to that day .

  however today we see not babylon the great that is falling ,but the jehovah`s witnesses religion that are on the decline ,selling off branches , kingdom halls in one place after another throughout the earth .. and only a couple of years ago they were predicting they would be needing thousands of kingdom halls to be built for the expected influx of new worshippers ?

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  blondie

  Rub, I did say this

  (not as much as in the past, not easy to dumb down for current jws)

  It would take an oldtimer like me to remember the convoluted way they used to approach this. Even then I could see the eyes of many glaze over.

  
  
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  Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

  where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

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  blondie

  johnamos, can you remind me where Jesus actually uses the word "jehovah" (or equivalent proper name) in something he says.
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  Cain and the Kenites

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm at work, so i'll be brief.

  the kenites are mentioned many times in the ot, usually associated with a semi nomadic pastoral herding lifestyle and metal work, centered/originating in the south of israel but found throughout the land as resources required.

  they are regarded as a branch of midianites which is relevant for the introduction of yahweh to israel called the kenite hypothesis (another time).

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  blondie

  peacefulpete, in this case, this is a road I have not traveled much. But I am starting.

  The WTS has said that none of Cain's descendants survived the flood since only Noah and his immediate family lived through it (unless one of the wives was a descendant of Cain). I never knew why god did not execute Cain then, not because there was no written law against it, murder, is a written law necessary to know that was wrong? The WTS uses this excuse to give Judah a pass regarding having sex with a temple prostitute, and if a widower has sex with a woman, that doesn't count because he is not married and there is no law yet against that. (reference Joseph)

  Notice this statement by the WTS

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000198?q=moses+married+zipporah&p=par#h=7
  

  At the time of Dinah’s violation by Shechem the Hivite, the family of Jacob was urged by Hamor, Shechem’s father, to enter into marriage alliances with that tribe. Though Jacob’s sons did not follow through with their apparent acceptance, they did take the Hivite women and children captive after avenging Dinah’s honor. (Ge 34:1-11, 29) Judah later married a Canaanite woman (Ge 38:2), and Joseph’s wife was an Egyptian. (Ge 41:50) Moses married Zipporah, a Midianite, evidently called a “Cushite” at Numbers 12:1. (Ex 2:16, 21) These marriages, however, were contracted before the giving of the Law and hence could not be considered a violation of its requirements.
  

  Back to the real topic,

  The identity of the Kenites in the bible is something I have only read in passing.

  1) that Moses married into a Kenite? family, Zipporah, who was not an Israelite. Which based on the strong view against married outside your religious group, was a no-no in my mind.

  2) the confusing discussion of the WTS as to Zipporah's ancestry, Midian, Cush, Kenite, ???

  Another question that comes to mind, does the bible or other outside source, identify the Kenites as worshippers of the Israelite god (thus Zipporah) (per the WTS).

  ----In the end, I realize how little outside history sources have to clear up my questions, only add to them. It does teach me not to accept the WTS explanation of history, even history in the bible which is biased in the first place. The WTS counts on the fact that its members are not likely to be interested in going too far into other sources, even chastising them at times for feeling they need something more than "food from Jehovah's table." I don't find many ex-jws that seem to want to go farther either.

  I do enjoy your posts, giving me something to look further into. But I am just beginning and it will take some time for me to catch up.

  Thanks
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  Why Register (R) jw dot org?

  by pixel in

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  2. beliefs

  so, on paragraph 9 of last's week wt study (number 30), i see the are showing the registered symbol next to jw.borg.

  why would you register a website in that circusntance?

  i've never seem that before.

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  blondie

  pixel, that is true, but when I drive by the KH near me, the first thing I see is the blue box logo, not that it is a website.

  Just me perhaps.
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  Just made for XJW's - Good Omens

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  a 1990 novel, now a film, its just made for us disillusioned ex-christians.

  it takes the piss out of yhwh and his fake son, jesus'.

  the book: "the book is a comedy about the birth of the son of satan, the coming of the end times.

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  blondie

  Thanks for the tip. I will definitely check up on this.
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  Satan is abyssed for 1000 years and when released, immediately asks...

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. social
  2. humour

  ... "has brexit been sorted out yet?

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  blondie

  smiddy3, so funny. Nice to wake up to this morning.

  I need to see the WT/JW lawyers ,you can`t punish me twice on the same charge ,i`ve done my time.
  
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  Babylon The Great / World Empire of False Religion, do JW`s even preach that anymore ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when was that first preached , with the book babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rules ,the 1970`s ?

  where they claimed that false religion had a fall in 1919 and that it was continuing to that day .

  however today we see not babylon the great that is falling ,but the jehovah`s witnesses religion that are on the decline ,selling off branches , kingdom halls in one place after another throughout the earth .. and only a couple of years ago they were predicting they would be needing thousands of kingdom halls to be built for the expected influx of new worshippers ?

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  blondie

  (not as much as in the past, not easy to dumb down for current jws)

  2016

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016046#h=8:0-8:527
  

  SPEAKING of the time in which we are living, Jehovah foretold: “In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: ‘We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.’” (Zech. 8:23) Like the figurative ten men, those who have an earthly hope have taken “firm hold of the robe of a Jew.” They are proud to associate with the spirit-anointed “Israel of God,” knowing that Jehovah is blessing his anointed ones.​—Gal. 6:16.

  If it is not possible to know with certainty the names of all spiritual Israelites on earth today, how can members of the other sheep “go with” them? Notice what the prophecy in Zechariah states concerning the figurative ten men. These ones would “take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: ‘We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.’” Although only one Jew is mentioned here, in both instances the pronoun “you” refers to more than one person. This spiritual Jew must, then, be a composite person, not just one individual! So it is not necessary to identify every spiritual Jew and then go with him or her. Rather, we need to identify these ones as a group and then support them as such. In no way do the Scriptures encourage us to follow an individual. Jesus is our Leader.​—Matt. 23:10.