Posts by blondie

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Our Spiritual Heritage of Failed Expectations

by neat blue dog in

last sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.

was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.

in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?

blondie

As to 2 people married to each other both claiming to be anointed; before 1932, most jws (Bible Students) and the WTS felt there was really on one hope for those getting baptized. Today, it is hard to imagine a congregation where every baptized jw had the hope of going to heaven to rule with Jesus. Most of us knew few and they were much older, and some of us didn't know any jws who claimed to be anointed.

53 years ago (around the mid-60's I did meet a couple where she did not consider herself anointed but her husband did. They were in their 80's then and come into the WTS in their 20's. So they were of the pre-1932 but she did not claim to be anointed. So there were a few jws (Bible Students) that did not claim to be anointed but they were looked on with suspicion, thinking these people must have did not understand the holy spirit's choosing them. BTW, Ray Franz claimed to be anointed, but his wife Cynthia did not.

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New Study Bible Photos!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

new study bible photos from reddit if you want them.

these are a bit larger photos.

see first page for info.. .

blondie

I am not surprised, Atlantis. The WTS has always been afraid to give its members any freedom regarding research unless it is in the WTS publications. And even that is controlled regarding older WTS publications. That is why my motto regarding responding to jws, it so hang the WTS with their own words.

Yes, starting with Russell who said that if someone tried to read the Bible without the WTS publications, they would learn nothing might even end off worse. So the Bible itself is not enough but things have to be written to support it. Sounds like the Talmud with its over 600 additions to the law code.

It is no wonder that the Jesus of the bible said the religious leaders of his day were making the word of God invalid.

(Of course, some will say that Jesus never existed and the bible is only the work of humans, but some humans do put value in it, so if they do the same as the people Jesus condemned, they can consider themselves condemned by their teacher.)

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New topic fixed

by Simon in

looks like the update i pushed yesterday broke the "new topic" link.

if this shows up, then it's fixed :).

there are quite a few other updates, nothing should be visually different but the backend is changing in preparation for more noticeable changes and just to improve performance..

blondie

New topic works

Sign in works

But can't still send a pm; perhaps it is a problem only for me; is there something that could be causing it on my laptop?

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New Study Bible Photos!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

new study bible photos from reddit if you want them.

these are a bit larger photos.

see first page for info.. .

blondie

I looked on JWN and found this

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/134262/new-watchtower-conductor-guidelines

Hinging on an earlier thread on this topic; here's a quotation from the text of the letter to all elders:

"The Kingdom Ministry School textbook emphasizes the importance of thorough preparation on the part of the study conductor. But this does not mean that he should introduce additional material from his own personal research and thus possible overshadow what has been published in the magazine. Extensive research has already been involved in producing the study article, and the points to be emphasized are those included in the paragraphs under consideration. When outside material is introduced, it often detracts from what "the faithful and discreet slave" has prepared for the congregation. (Matt 24:45-47) The impression may be given that the additional information from the conductor's research is of equal or greater value."

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New Study Bible Photos!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

new study bible photos from reddit if you want them.

these are a bit larger photos.

see first page for info.. .

blondie

Thanks, Atlantis. That is great, I do still think there is something more recent. I'll keep looking.

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1934 Yearbook hard to find

by rickroll in

i have been looking for one and they go for a lot when i do find them.

to the tune of 200 bucks.

are they that rare?.

blondie

Yes, the Declaration of the Facts from Rutherford to the German government/Hitler letter was published in the 1934 Yearbook.

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/hitler-nazi.php

https://www.jwfacts.com/pdf/declaration-of-facts.pdf

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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

by Athanasius in

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friends

the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

in my dreams i saw the carts.

they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

blondie

stan, here is a link to a discussion about the cost of the carts.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/382700001/what-costs-literature-cart-witnessing?page=5#/6326212337074176

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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

by Athanasius in

jw
friends

the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

in my dreams i saw the carts.

they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

blondie

stan, not for sure regarding price of one cart, I think it has been posted on JWN before.

I can't believe that some WTS publications are paid for by jws or the congregation. That would definitely be "new light."

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Spinochordodes tellinii and Fundamentalism

by peacefulpete in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/spinochordodes_tellinii.

one heck of an analogy for fundamentalism.

the nasty critters enter the brain of grasshoppers and crickets to inject proteins that control its behavior.

blondie

peacefulpete, amazing comparison of real life and what the WTS has said about the locusts in Revelation (and Joel 2).

(BTW I have not looked at the "new" WTS view on who the locusts are)

2007

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2007722#h=11:0-11:520

2:1-10, 28—How has the prophecy about the invasion by insects been fulfilled? There is no record in the Bible of an insect invasion of the land of Canaan of the magnitude described in the book of Joel. Therefore, the assault Joel describes is apparently pictorial of the time in 33 C.E. when Jehovah started to pour out his spirit upon early followers of Christ and they began preaching the message that tormented false religious leaders. (Acts 2:1, 14-21; 5:27-33) It is our privilege to share in a similar work today.

Revelation Climax book (Revelation 9:4-6)

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101988022#h=4:0-9:618

w2016 March study issue pp. 13-17

Thick smoke poured out, and from this came a plague of locusts. Rather than ravage vegetation, the symbolic locusts swarm against “those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.” (Rev. 9:1-4) John no doubt knew how devastating a locust swarm could be. Had not locusts plagued ancient Egypt in Moses’ day? (Ex. 10:12-15) The figurative locusts that John saw well illustrate anointed Christians proclaiming Jehovah’s powerful judgment messages. They are joined now by millions of companions with an earthly hope.

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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

by Athanasius in

jw
friends

the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

in my dreams i saw the carts.

they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

blondie

stan, I don't believe jws have "paid" directly for any WTS literature since 1990. I don't think the literature in the carts would be any different. But I understand that the congregations do pay for the carts.