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  Olin Moyle's letter to Judge Rutherford

  by GabeAthouse in

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  olin moyle was an attorney who was invited to bethel headquarters back in the 1930's to assist with legal cases at that time.

  he became disillusioned with the culture at the headquarters and penned the following letter of resignation.

  rutherford replied with an outrageous article in the watchtower provoking moyle to sue.

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  blondie

  To understand the context of "Religion is a Snare and a Racket" shouted by Rutherford, it is important to know that before 1950, the WTS taught all religion was false but the WTS or Jehovah's witnesses were not a religion. After 1950, the WTS starting saying there was "false religion" and the "only true religion" were Jehovah's witnesses. That confused jws at the time because there had not been anything official in the publications about that change. Instead the WTS used a Questions from Readers segment in the WT 3/15/51 p.191-92 to slip it in (I'm sure there was no real reader submitting this question). "In the past we regarded "religion" as anything that was against God's will. Now many brothers are using the expressions "true religion" and "false religion" to make a distinction. Is this advisable.?--D.D, California. (Notice how they use weasel words to shift themselves away from an embarrassing situation): "The brothers are correct in using the qualifying adjectives "true" and "false" respecting religion, so as not to be misunderstood, especially by those outside the organization. In the past we have had to do so much needless explanation and extricating ourselves from embarrassing positions by not being specific on this." Hahahahaha
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  Do you remember GRACE GOUGH?

  by LullingtonRd in

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  hello, i am grace gough's granddaughter:.

  i have started a blog that begins at the beginning and this is with grace.

  follow along as i dive into her life - and please do reach out if you have any stories to share with me that i can add to my blog.. you can find the blog here:.

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  blondie

  Anyone who met Grace and spent time with her, would never forget her. My husband and I visited her one year and she invited us to her home, made us dinner, and had some ex-jw friends over to talk afterwards. Such energy she had and how she loved to talk about her experiences, and I loved to listen. She was like a grandma to me, and I miss her. Thanks for doing this.
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  Billions to die at Armageddon?

  by BoogerMan in

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  not according to this verse:.

  (mark 3:28, 29) truly i say to you that all things will be forgiven the sons of men, no matter what sins they commit and what blasphemies they speak.

  but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit has no forgiveness forever but is guilty of everlasting sin.”.

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  blondie

  Of course, there is no scripture to support the idea that billions will die at the WTS appointed or anyone else's time for Armageddon to come. I always wondered as a child if small children (who had done nothing to be killed eternally for, and could not make their own choice) were killed at the flood. Being a child myself and having only one parent that was baptized a jw but did not live a very good jw life, I thought that I would die because of my mother's actions. The WTS has a convoluted "explanation" why a god that is loving would do this. Ezekiel says at 18:20 "The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will bear no guilt because of the error of his father, and a father will bear no guilt because of the error of his son. The righteousness of the righteous one will be accounted to him alone, and the wickedness of the wicked one will be accounted to him alone." so that does not fit in with the WTS doctrine. I have researched this a great deal, until I realized is something the "bible does not say" but the WTS goes on to say what god would have said. (If you can do it without triggering yourself, search the WT Online Library with the phrase "the bible does not say" and you may or may not be amazed how many times the WTS uses that phrase and then proceeds to fill in what they think it means, and if the GB thinks it is true until there is a "clarification" or an "adjustment."
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  Minions - new Smurfs?

  by Festus in

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  a friend of mine told me that her witness relative from west coast had reacted to minions (child animation) in a same way that some jdubs reacted to smurfs.. aka she claimed that minions are "from satan".. has anyone else heard this?.

  well i guess harry potter, lotr etc has received similar recption....nothing new in that sense..

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  blondie

  My questions are when someone says something like this: 1) did the person who told you this hear this from the WTS or who 2) if they were told by someone who was told by someone who was told by someone, and no one knows how this started 3) what has the WTS said about this in print...I was told by 3 GB members that they did not believe something like this unless it was in the printed WT on the table in their Bethel room when they got home from work. Not even if another GB member told them. If appointed male jws are telling you things like this, they do not have official approval from the WTS. (not that they don't but don't pass it along, trying to get attention for some exclusive, sensational info).
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  Completing the Scan of All WT Publications - Bibles List

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i am working with paul grundy from jwfacts and with the administrator of avoidjw.org, and they are ok with me doing the work that i am doing right now, which is to try and complete, as much as possible, the availability of everything the wt has ever published, in pdf format.therefore, i will start listing in this thread what i have not been able to find anywhere online.

  please let me know where i can find the pdf's for the following:(now, i know that there are multiple versions of these and that there are some that seem the same but they are not.

  i am looking for the wt published versions of these publications.

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  blondie

  What an undertaking, and a sacrifice by you.
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  Stephen Lett’s Favorite Color

  by Iamallcool in

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  i just noticed that stephen lett’s favorite color is blue.

  he usually wear blue ties but not all the time.

  just an observation on my part.

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  blondie

  In some places, blue is considered a color associated closely with heaven...he's anointed (or claims to be) and is expecting to go home to heaven when he dies. haha
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  I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.

  by Witness 007 in

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  so i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.

  i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.

  i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.

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  blondie

  I remember going to a circuit assembly in the same circuit Bethelites attended from the farm. The circuit overseer got up and brought up the point that jws with nice cars did not want to use them in "preaching" because their car might get messed up and they did not want the wear and tear on their car. He counseled these people that they should use their own car, gas, and run up "wear and tear" on their car not the literally "poor" pioneer, these people with the nice cars were missing an opportunity to do good to their "brothers." But see there were a lot of Bethelites in those congregations, many who did not have nice cars and not the income to support the cost of gas...I wondered how that worked out?
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  Hi again

  by Lee Marsh in

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  it is nice to see some familiar faces here.

  for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.

  thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.

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  blondie

  Nice to see you back. We are about the same age, time marches on.
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  I got robbed this morning!

  by Iamallcool in

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  first of all… i am ok. i was robbed at the gas station this morning.

  after my hands stopped trembling, i managed to call the police.

  they were quick to respond and calmed me down, but all my money is gone.

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  blondie

  Ice-T?
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  Watchtower Dishonesty aka Theocratic Warfare

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.

  here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.

  helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!

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  blondie

  Great answers