The congregation I was in growing up was the original congregation in the area and had a lot of things, like that, the phonograph they used to play Rutherford's records at the door and the records. I took both records and player home and listened to them. Hard to sleep through talks like that, he boomed it out. It gave me some perspective of what life was back there for WTS members. It made me imagine when the drove around with the sound cars blasting out those talks to the neighborhood in general. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/03/e8/bd/03e8bd7d62d0c56f7b0fea4132353a8a.jpg
Posts by blondie
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I Found Some Extremely Rare Rutherford Recordings
by Nosferatu ini was blown away when i found these watchtower records with rutherford on them.
these aren't the ones that were used door to door.
these are 16 inch records that were sent to radio stations to broadcast rutherford over the airwaves.
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I'm Back--Blondie
by blondie inyes, i am posting again.
i could not for awhile technologically and it is now fixed thanks to simon.
thanks, simon!
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blondie
Incognito, yes I saw that when started posting again. I met Minimus in person when we went out east one year. He was quite a character, firm in his ideas, and quite humorous. He enjoyed his life every day, and enjoyed being with people. He had been a salesperson most of his life. Blondie
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When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?
by slimboyfat indoes anyone know what year?
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blondie
SBF, I can remember the WTS saying that other religions "version" was not accurate too. The quotes help immensely, hang them with their own words. I did quite a bit of research of how the meetings were held back in the 20's and 30's, interviewed some jws from that time and they had no clue and were surprised when I showed them the quotes. Meetings changed quite a bit, originally only the Studies in the Scriptures were used in small home groups. At times, Russell and some selected speakers might go on a speaking tour. My grandparents attended one by Rutherford in 1920, only 15 jws in the congregation. Public talks were hit and miss because most male Bible Students did not have training in public speaking and the ministry school did not start until 1943. No Watchtower till some time later, 30's, WTs had no questions at first and the congregation members would submit questions to be used. Sunday meetings were in the early evening, and members when out all day in "field service" and then had a meeting. Sometimes they only got through 3 paragraphs because the conductor would get into a "discussion" with another brother over the meaning. It was a riot one sister told me. Bible studies were not really pushed until about 1940 when the WTS came out with booklets, Conducting a Model Study. Today's procedures and meetings are so far off from those days.
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Directions that don't make sense to us
by Longlivetherenegades inat times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that does not make sense to us.
however, jehovah blesses obedience.
.......watchtower november 2021 study article 47 paragraph 11. for example:for example: so the king(david) said to joab go take a census of israel (2 samuel 24: 1.....) .
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blondie
March 2022 WT p.15: " We all get discouraged at times. So we can benefit from considering the encouragement Jehovah gave the Israelites through Zechariah’s fifth vision. Understanding this vision can help us to serve Jehovah faithfully when we are dealing with opposition, when we are coping with change, and when we receive direction that we do not understand." Actually this is the theme of the whole article.
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What do you know about Tartarus?
by raymond frantz insometimes a word can change everything and this is the case here with a word that appears only once in the bible but reveals so much about the powers of darkness, the influence of greek literature on the first apostles and finally and more relative to 1the intellectual dishonesty of the watchtower when it comes to presenting information from extra biblical sources.so if you like stories about the fallen angels and hollow earth stay presented from an exjw perspective watch this video.
https://youtu.be/zuv6zsuntci.
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blondie
Sigrfrid, I thought the same thing. :)
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When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?
by slimboyfat indoes anyone know what year?
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blondie
I knew many Bible Students (later jws in 1931) during that period, my grandparents were Bible Students and left in 1932, didn't like Rutherford and the name change in 1931. I also knew those who stayed and never mentioned this. but then perhaps it has faded in time. How many jws know that before 1970, at the WT Study, the questions were asked first, answers given, and then the paragraph was read (to "sum up"). It seems the conductor would look out and see the audience frantically reading the paragraph looking for an answer, seemed few had pre-studied perhaps did not even read the article. So the WTS adjusted and had the paragraph read first, then question asked. Based on what one older woman told me, the few public speakers they had, had no real training and the talks were so bad. As well, as prayers. Probably reciting the Lord's Prayer was so much better. "Yearbook South Africa: "In 1933 the branch office moved to larger rented premises in Cape Town and remained there until 1952. By then the Bethel family had grown to 21 members. Those early Bethelites had accommodations in brothers’ homes and traveled to the office and printery every day. Before work each morning, they met in the changing room of the printery to discuss the daily text. After that, they recited the Lord’s Prayer in unison." 2007 Yearbook, p. 84.
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Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?
by smiddy3 ini was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.
2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?
are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..
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blondie
Anything good I seemed to have learned during my tenure with the WTS, could easily have been learned elsewhere. But the bad stuff I was indoctrinated with over almost 50 years is hard to get rid of and the negative effects that I experienced during childhood and adulthood. Don't kid yourselves.
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My Favorite Book About Bethel by Randy Watters
by Dogpatch inmy favorite bethel bookrandy watters.
vignettes of this famous author's life, as reviewed from her out-of-print book, "visions of glory--a history and a memory of jehovah's witnesses" (new york: simon and schuster, 1978).
barbara gave exclusive rights to her book to randy just months before she passed away in 2002. the whole book is available as a pdf download from the free minds store.. .
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blondie
According to what I know Randy is about 69 and lives in California. I did a search and confirmed that to some degree. He was quite ill the last time he posted here but seems to still be living. I am almost sure this is accurate because my info lists his old website. I hope he is reading this and tries to make contact somehow if he wants to.
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Will the next James Bond be........
by BoogerMan in.......a disabled black, non-binary, homosexual, transsexual, environmentalist vegan?
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all bases need to be covered.
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blondie
I doubt it...nothing to be afraid of.
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Date a JW student
by Renee86 incan a witness date and court a jw student if he intends to get baptized?
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Can a Witness date and court a JW student if he intends to get baptized?
Renee, this is it, until you are baptized, jws considered you are not a jw, even if you are studying. Thus dating an unbaptized person even if they are studying with jws, is really dating a non-jw, which is frowned up and can result in a general talk given to the congregation during the mid-week meeting, that talks about that kind of dating and why it is not something others in the congregation should imitate. In a Watchtower in 2004, it said this: " A person who is studying the Bible with Jehovah’s Witnesses and who is making fine spiritual progress is to be commended. However, he has not yet dedicated himself to Jehovah and committed himself to a life of service and sacrifice. He is still making necessary changes. He needs to complete the major changes involved in becoming a dedicated, baptized Christian before contemplating another major life change, such as marriage.
Would it be advisable for a Christian to pursue courtship with someone who seems to be making good progress in his Bible study—perhaps with the intention of waiting until he gets baptized before marrying him? No. The motives of a Bible student could well become confused if he is aware that a dedicated Christian wants to marry him but will not do so until he is baptized."