Posts by blondie

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Pimo's walking out

by Foolednomore in

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is it possible that jw's would get so worn out by watchtower 's bullshit that they would stand up gather their stuff and walk out of a meeting or a convention.

i can see a small number doing it..

WC, 1) comparing jws to a baby elephant tied with a chain to a big post, the baby learned it could only go so far, and even when it became a large elephant it didn't realize it could pull the post up, and leave. Brainwashing?

2) If a jw had a non-jw husband, they were married to a "walking corpse."

3)"If Jesus saW a shiny penny and a dirty quarter, Jesus would pickup the shiny penny." Does that make sense? Jesus would not notice or pickup a dirty quarter, only a shiny penny. So is that what Jesus was looking for shiny people, or the ones looked like a dirty quarter?

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Date a JW student

by Renee86 in

can a witness date and court a jw student if he intends to get baptized?

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blondie

FFGhost, very good summary.

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Directions that don't make sense to us

by Longlivetherenegades in

at times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that does not make sense to us.

however, jehovah blesses obedience.

.......watchtower november 2021 study article 47 paragraph 11. for example:for example: so the king(david) said to joab go take a census of israel (2 samuel 24: 1.....) .

blondie

Sea Breeze, good translating. "There, I fixed it. Should I apply to Bethel?" Why not, they might make you a GB member. :)

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Does the WTS have a clergy class

by blondie in

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this can be confusing because the wts has adjusted from not having a clergy class to not having a "paid" clergy class.. "a congregation of brothers precludes having a proud clergy class that honors itself with high-sounding titles and elevates itself above a laity" wt 6/1/2001 p. 12, pp 11. still same idea in 2021 wt october, p. 20, pp.

7, but 2022 in the wt publication, frequently asked questions about jehovah’s witnesses, page 13, the wts inserts "paid" in front of "clergy perhaps to shore up their current statement in secular courts they have clergy, just not paid) "following the model of first-century christianity, jehovah’s witnesses have no clergy-laity division.

all baptized witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work.

blondie

ozziepost, there are no longer district assemblies, they are called regional conventions. I think it was a cost-saving measure when the WTS eliminated that group in the line of authority.

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Share This?

by blondie in

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i notice now that ops have a "share this" in the upper right hand corner.

i know how to do it on fb, how do we do it here?.

blondie

Lee, it is not even clickable on my page.

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Congregation in PA sues over mandatory reporting

by Corney in

ivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.

it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.

to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.

blondie

Rattigan350, I was just saying how the WTS is being deceitful, hiding behind the label "clergy." at the same time saying they are not a clergy. Nothing really stays secret on an elder body. It only takes one elder telling his talkative wife, or nosy family members who look at KH files he has unlocked in a file at home (not allowed), or family members who listen in on phone calls. The WTS only tries hard to keep secret who the pedophiles are in their midst, or accept their plea for forgiveness, means slate clean and pedophile is very likely to continue abusing/raping children. I know that confidentiality is found among other disciplines, but then it means nothing if that individual tells other (even other psychiatrists, doctors, lawyers, etc).

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Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon

by joey jojo in

at the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.

it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.

im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.

blondie

Waton, if I understand "exactly, I believe JJ was mistaken about that. that idea was not a wt doctrine for the last 70 years", I was trying to show how the WTS changes their beliefs whenever they start getting backed into the corner on the current one. I always wondered if the anointed were to live through Armageddon and live on the earth afterwards for a time, that would mean they would not be in heaven for the wedding of Jesus and the Bride of Christ. (now remember this does not mean I think this now, just reporting, not supporting). It bothered me for quite awhile and I commented on it here on JWN, but then patience paid off, the WTS changed it to the current belief. I always wondered if certain jws read my comments and realized they had to change it?

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Links to articles of letter of recomendation

by jojorabbit in

i am new to this forum.

i was a former jehovah's witness for many years.

i have a question maybe some of you can help me with.

blondie

The thing I remember, is that no one can "earn" everlasting life. It is how we live our life up until Armageddon per the WTS. Life is a gift, there is no way to buy it, since humans in the bible are considered imperfect, and only a perfect person can pay the price. It is not a competition to see how many people you study with become jws. Converting a person is a group effort. Just reporting, not supporting WTS ideas. There are some people who have never seen a person they study with become jws. So will the person who does, get a greater reward, everlasting life for all who do their best and are faithful to their end. Letters of recommendation really are not better than spending time with the individual and seeing for yourself what kind of person he/she is. Your actions speak louder than any other person's words about you.

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How To Talk About Interpretation With Jehovah's Witnesses.

by Vanderhoven7 in

this from my book: good news for jehovah's witnesses.

before we discuss any doctrinal issues, i would like to distinguish between what i believe is proper versus improper interpretive practice.... so you know what i can accept as biblical and what i can't accept.. basic guidelines for validating doctrinal claims`).

i. there must be at least one scriptural reference that can be cited for support of any doctrinal claim or position.. ii.

blondie

truth_b_known, yes, it is amazing what you can learn by reading a bible without the WTS nonsense ringing in your ear. Sometimes people think I believe the nonsense as I am trying to show the official stance of the WTS, by saying "reporting not supporting."

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Blood: When an Active JW is Health POA for non-JW

by JW_Researcher in

my mother has designated my sister as her ‘designated health care representative.’ my sister has sworn to my mother that, if my mother needs blood, my sister will not refuse it.

there are no anticipated (key word) needs for blood at this time.

my mother is in her early 80s.. my mother has never been a jw but is very familiar with all aspects of jwdom and understands the risk of my sister not allowing blood if my mother needed it.

blondie

Thanks, JW_Researcher. Yes, it was a tricky situation and all the jw family members had to have a powwow so we would all be on the same page. Rules and laws, written and unwritten drives the WTS.