Posts by blondie

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Disfellowshipped, Seeking Reinstatement

by NotFormer in

do disfellowshipped ones who want to be reinstated still have to sit up the back of the kingdom hall, away from everyone else, not allowed to speak to anyone?.

when did you realise that it wasn't worth it and finally decided to stop playing the game?.

is your life better now?.

blondie

Is this "clarification" related to the pressure being put on them by governments about the disfellowshipping and shunning of children?

I'm sure it is. I have seen many "adjustments" made by the WTS, driven by a negative legal experience because of treatment of df'd jws. In the past the WTS announced people as being df'd and name the specific sin, in an announcement from the stage at the "service meeting." It was also announced at other congregations the person had attended in the past in the area. They finally adjusted it to "is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses."

2021 "When we hear an announcement made at a Christian meeting that someone we know and love “is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses"

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Another gem from the latest Study WT!

by BoogerMan in

"consider the example of oleg and irina, a married couple who serve as pioneers.

after moving to assist a congregation in another area, they lost their source of income because of the worsening economic conditions in their country....... one day when they returned home from the ministry, they learned that a close friend had traveled about 160 kilometers (100 mi) to bring them two bags of groceries.

oleg says: “on that day, we once again experienced the depth of jehovah’s care and that of the congregation.".

blondie

enough, no I haven't. I'm sure it is good, but I have my experiences with the evil back room things of the WTS, personally and from reliable sources. I'm convinced that the foundation of the WTS is evil and infects everyone and everything that it comes in contact with. Now, I'm not saying there are the only organization that is like this, but it is one I am too familiar with.

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Another gem from the latest Study WT!

by BoogerMan in

"consider the example of oleg and irina, a married couple who serve as pioneers.

after moving to assist a congregation in another area, they lost their source of income because of the worsening economic conditions in their country....... one day when they returned home from the ministry, they learned that a close friend had traveled about 160 kilometers (100 mi) to bring them two bags of groceries.

oleg says: “on that day, we once again experienced the depth of jehovah’s care and that of the congregation.".

blondie

You can never confirm the WTS "experiences."

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So, What's Been Going On In Watchtower Land Since January 2023?

by JW GoneBad in

so what's been going on in wt land since january 2023?.

recap and summary of events most jehovah’s witnesses are not aware of:.

1) pennsylvania attorney general statewide investigation of jehovah’s witness elders' child sex abuse cases.

blondie

VIdiot, money talks.

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

blondie

Yes, Lee, you can still "hang them with their own words." The WTS just quits mentioning those words, and hopes the jws either weren't in the WTS then, and the ones that were have convenient memories.

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Disfellowshipped, Seeking Reinstatement

by NotFormer in

do disfellowshipped ones who want to be reinstated still have to sit up the back of the kingdom hall, away from everyone else, not allowed to speak to anyone?.

when did you realise that it wasn't worth it and finally decided to stop playing the game?.

is your life better now?.

blondie

Questions From Readers: "Since it is not required that a disfellowshipped person sit at the back of the hall, there should be no objection if a disfellowshipped child sits next to his parents, wherever they are sitting." WT 8/15/13 p. 8

(this includes non-minor children living at home).

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Is JW.org going Broke?

by Vanderhoven7 in

https://youtu.be/e6gh6w7v03y.

blondie

I have mentioned in the past, that the WTS has a lot of their net/gross worth in property,etc. Now cash, especially available cash, not so much. Cash flowing is a necessary thing, using property as collateral is an iffy situation when applying for loans (yes the WTS takes out loans from non-jw sources). I am not an investment expert, but..the WTS does invest their money, and so far, the revenue from those investments have been up and down and down drastically in some periods, making breaking even a plus for them. (remember 2008) I do believe that many jws are not leaving but they are voting with their wallets, not donating to the WT organization, so far donations can be anonymous (that is eroding now too). Many jws income has gone down too, and big donations from "wealthy" jws. I feel that if on an average that number of jws gave $10 a month, what would that be. More than big donations from a few. Yes, the WTS is cutting back on services, making the congregations pick up the slack. In this area, the regional conventions were all scheduled at the assembly hall. Yes, the rent goes directly into the WTS pockets. I'm sure others on here know of other saving procedures the WTS has been taking.

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How exactly did Jesus choose the organization in 1919?

by Gman2001 in

did he appear to someone?.

blondie

https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/1919-derived.php Here is a breakdown of the history of the origin of the 1919 teaching by the WTS over the years.

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Awake! No.1 2023, A United Nations Advertisement?

by EasyPrompt in

awake!

magazine no.1 2023 and united nations promotions.

page 3, "world meteorological association".

blondie

In the past, there was much said about the WTS status as a non-governmental organization associated with the UN and the WTS did that to qualify for the benefits/support the UN gives to those organizations. Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs)They include international charities such as OXFAM and Save the Children, research institutes, churches, community-based organizations, lobby groups and professional associations.

What has the WTS said about what the identity of the UN is?https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/502016102?q=beast+united+nations&p=sen

Info on 1991/1992 revelation about the WTS association with the UN

"https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php

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"the other sheep will feed the other sheep"

by enoughisenough in

interesting statement in this video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zchsc1wedns.

blondie

EasyPrompt, I am discussing what the WTS has said, not necessarily what non-jws have said. The WTS does not teach that Jesus and his followers in heaven (144,000) will be coming down to earth to hang out with the non-anointed. But I know of religions that teach that. (Not supporting that either)