Posts by blondie

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Stop Funding Watchtower in Canada!

by Vanderhoven7 in

this is worth a look!.

https://youtu.be/wxfczptd2n8?si=4jo-nuzmlvglbvkm.

I think the US has a stronger belief in separation of church and sate, embedded in the US Constitution, Bill of Rights. It was one of the reasons the US separated from the UK. It is being eroded in the US and demonstrated by Freedom From Religion Foundation, in recent years.

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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?

by Ron.W. in

yes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?

they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?

?.

blondie

1953 WT "But Jehovah’s witnesses cannot break faith with Jehovah; so they continue to worship and preach as they are able, waiting upon Jehovah for salvation "

Feb 2024 WT p.26-27

Find Happiness While Waiting Patiently for Jehovah

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Conscription FEARS to END? Jehovah's Witnesses in EUROPE?

by raymond frantz in

https://www.jwupdates.com/post/conscription-fears-across-europe-could-end-jehovah-s-witnesses.

as the clouds of war are gathering fast over the european continent many countries including britain are contemplating a return to conscription and some form of mandatory military service.

considering the fact that the watchtower fought long and hard especially in europe for the right of its believers to abstain from military service it is very interesting to see how this new development will affect the watchtower across europe.

blondie

It seems that General Patrick Sanders suggested it might be necessary due to the numbers in the military dropping but the PM does not support that. Worth doing a search and seeing this current development.

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Russia's FSB Raids Jehovah’s Witness Office in Occupied Mariupol

by Bangalore in

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russia's fsb raids jehovah’s witness office in occupied mariupol.. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/01/15/russias-fsb-raids-jehovahs-witness-office-in-occupied-mariupol-a83726.

blondie

I wonder what governments think when they see that the WTS teaches they are all under the control of Satan, either directly or indirectly.

WT 2023 October p.8 paragraph 10 "The Bible acknowledges that human governments cause suffering, are under Satan’s control, and will soon be destroyed. (Ps. 110:5, 6; Eccl. 8:9; Luke 4:5, 6)"

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Can you openly express doubts in the congregation these days?

by Elena in

i know of a lovely old sister who has been a jw for several decades now who openly expresses doubts about jw interpretations.. she does it in such a lovely way and everyone loves her.

she is such a sweet old soul, makes everyone happy around her.. she has said things like- even if we have got it wrong about this and that i still believe the bible is gods word”.

she answers up regularly and she goes on ministry groups but like most of us she is definitely jwlite, we don’t really do door to door work anymore.

blondie

No. ""At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not." Watchtower 2013 Nov 15 p.20"

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Trinity n latest ideas actually fit in more with JWs ideas?

by Mikejw in

there is a new trinity teaching that says jesus is a separate person but at the same time all three are one.. https://youtu.be/jdok0gedjau?si=bbdwoprdpzvzwkfz.

this is basically the same as watchtower teach that jesus is so much like his father in every way that you could almost call them the same.. things have changed from when i was pioneering with the old trinity brochure.

blondie

I was asked to prove to a religious couple I was studying with, to prove Jesus is Michael. As I researched the publications, I found that they had used weasel words that made it seem possible but not actual. "Aside from Michael, no archangel is mentioned in the Bible, nor do the Scriptures use the term "archangel" in the plural. The Bible describes Michael as the archangel, implying that he alone bears that designation. Hence, it is reasonable to conclude that Jehovah God has delegated to one, and only one, of his heavenly creatures full authority over all other angels"

Evidently, that angel was Michael—Jesus in his prehuman existence

Michael, referred to by some religions as “Saint Michael,” is evidently a name given to Jesus before and after his life on earth.

Consider why it is reasonable to conclude that Jesus is the archangel Michael.
The WTS then tries to stitch together various scriptures trying to give a "scriptural" basis for their belief, but instead shows it is not clearly stated and is very confusing. I doubt the average jw could begin to explain it using the bible, to a non-jw. I could not. One more crack in my thinking that the WTS had the "truth."

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The Reason Behind Recent Watchtower Changes

by Vanderhoven7 in

eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.

blondie

Is this the link to the other segments he mentions? https://beroeans.net/ A very informational and easy to understand discussion. I knew that there must be some underlying legal reason for the changes. Now I have some basis for this. A very good resource!

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Japan Probe into Child Rearing Practices of JW's

by Sea Breeze in

apparently in response to the probe of jw's in japan, the wt is seeking positive stories of jw's child-rearing practices:.

from reditt: .

re: urgent: request for assistance.

blondie

Mikejw, something I learned about the WTS, in countries that make it illegal to hit/strike your child can be held legally accountable for doing that. The WTS then took their publications that said that idea, were edited in that country's language to something different. So, the WTS would change it because a secular government said it was illegal. "On the other hand, in an article adapted from the seventh edition of the popular book Baby and Child Care (1998), Dr. Benjamin Spock said: “Spanking teaches children that the larger, stronger person has the power to get his way, whether or not he is in the right.” WT 2006 11/1 p. 5 But then in the same article "Dr. James Dobson wrote in The Strong-Willed Child (1978): “Corporal punishment in the hands of a loving parent is a teaching tool by which harmful behavior is inhibited.” " So the WTS does not say one is right and one is wrong, but speaks out of both sides of their mouth. The WTS cherrypicks quotes and only gives snippets of quotes, sometimes leaving out pertinent info that does not support their view. (An example of how some jws apply this doctrine "https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/nov/17/stephenbates "A devoutly religious couple from Chicago's South Side have been charged with murder after allegedly beating their daughter more than 160 times with a 2cm-thick length of electrical cable. A court heard yesterday that Larry and Constance Slack, both Jehovah's Witnesses, beat 11-year-old Laree - a punishment they believed was laid down in the Bible - after she was uncooperative during a search for her mother's jacket. The girl was tied to a metal futon frame, and at one point her five siblings, aged eight to 17, were told to hold her down. A towel was stuffed in her mouth to stifle her screams.

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Is Jesus God?

by Sea Breeze in

i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.

but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.

scripture says he's the creator.

blondie

No! When I left the WTS and started trying to find another "Christian" religion, I had 2 teachings that I would not accept 1) the Trinity and 2) burning forever in hellfire. None passed on both points as I was concerned. The LDS (Mormon) said they didn't believe in a trinity but a "binity" that Jesus and Jehovah were both god. Holy spirit was left out of it. And another said that Satan did not exist, although the bible clearly says that Jesus had a conversation with Satan. I stopped looking. Some ex-jws don't have the same parameters as I do, and some said that privately they would not support those teachings and were in it more for the social life. There are so many other markers that are easier for me to see, the lack of true love in congregations, hidden rocks in the water. People tend to overlook that too. So I have found very few people convincing about whether Jesus is or is not god. But lack of love, is more evident after time. When I see these conversations, I appreciate the research people, some bible scholars, have done on the subject. But is becomes very circular, really going nowhere, no one changing their original opinion. I do appreciate the time and research you have done.

What Watchtower said prior to 1914	What Watchtower claims it said prior to 1914
"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239	"The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5
"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226	"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8