I think some people think they can stay in and avoid being contaminated by some of the WTS teachings, I was like that PIMO. I finally realized I could not escape the taint, not be identified with the lies the WTS taught nor share them with non-jws as if it were true. Like not telling people they stepping into a deadly trap. I could no longer make excuses for the lack of real love in the WTS organization. In Jonestown, people not allowed not to drink the Koolaid, they were forced at gunpoint and seeing family members die, they wanted to die with them.
Posts by blondie
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50Pomo because of Proclaimers book, 1995 generation change and Daniel prophecy book
by Gorb inhave some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.
the years i became pimo.
a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.
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Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?
by liam ini didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.
practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.
now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.
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blondie
Yes, LHG, you were right to be careful with that reaction to shingles vaccine. I had both doses because I had had chickenpox. Recently a case of smallpox was found in NYC, a person coming in from another country. But still frightening since smallpox vaccinations are no longer given because it was "eradicated." I remember a missionary family with 4 children, the 3 older had been vaccinated for polio, but they did not get the youngest vaccinated. They went to a country is South America, and the 4th child got polio and was rendered unable to move from her mid-chest down. She had a special electric wheelchair she operated with her mouth using a guide stick. The parents felt so guilty because she was the victim of their lack of caring for her medically like the other 3 children. And she had to depend on her parents for the rest of her life. That was in the 1980's. I come from a different generation and I have been in other countries without the health conditions we have in the US. It is hard to realize what others endure if we don't see it.
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The boy who has cried wolf - for nearly 140 years!
by BoogerMan in"when will this hope be fulfilled?
the bible foretold events that would signal that god’s kingdom is about to begin its rule over the earth.
present world conditions match what the bible foretold.
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blondie
The WTS makes it clear in this quote, that even if jws don't understand what the WTS is saying, do it anyway. Watchtower 2013 Nov 15 p.20
"At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not." -
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Why Is Watchtower (Supposedly a Family Friendly Christian Publisher) Obsessed with Oral Sex?
by Sea Breeze inif you do a search on the wt website and type in "oral sex", you will get 69 results.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=oral+sex&p=par&r=occ&st=a .
why does the wt.
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blondie
The most recent WT attention to bestiality was in this year's first public edition of the WT 2024 (Note I said Public Edition of the WT), "THE BIBLE SAYS: “Abstain from sexual immorality. Each one of you should know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not with greedy, uncontrolled sexual passion like the nations have that do not know God.”—1 Thessalonians 4:3-5.
MEANING: The Bible limits how we are to express our sexual desires. The term “sexual immorality” includes adultery, prostitution, sexual relations between unmarried individuals, homosexuality, and bestiality. (1 Corinthians 6:9, 10)
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Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”
by FFGhost inso, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.
old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.
the “door of the ark” is closed.
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blondie
I found this info on Proverbs 4:18 and the justification of the WTS for their interpretation of this scripture and their being the only religious group that makes this application. It has been written by ex-jws with long experience with this teaching and why the application is wrong by using WTS quotes and reasoning from other scriptures is the WTS application supported by the bible.
https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/light-gets-brighter.php
Jehovah's Witnesses claim to be the only group to teach truth, as revealed to their Governing Body by Jehovah. If this is the case, why has Watchtower doctrine experienced ongoing changes? Watchtower justifies this as the "light gets brighter." This article examines the logic behind such a claim.
A key premise of this site is that constant changes in doctrine and failed predictions are clear indication that Jehovah does not direct Watchtower. For the external observer this is the logical conclusion, yet for one of Jehovah's Witnesses it barely raises a grimace. How can this be? Because changes and failures are immediately dismissed by the thought stopping concept:
Does truth change? continues
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Where Adam and Eve Vegan/Vegetarian?
by KerryKing injws seem to firmly believe that before the flood mankind eas vegan or at least vegetarian.. however, in gen 1:24,25 it says that god created livestock (domestic animals) and beasts of the eart (wild beasts).. why would adam and eve need livestock if they were vegan and naked?
wouldn't need wool or hide for clothing, nor meat for food.
possibly for dairy products only?
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blondie
TonusOH, Yes, Isaiah 65:25 and 11:6-9 says something similar but the WTS changed their interpretation from it being literal animals to animalike people. In the October 1, 1992 Watchtower p. 19, paragraph 18, the WTS corrects their teaching of it being fulfilled on literal animals to this. It was quite a change and got jws to talking a lot about the change. "Of course, “knowledge of Jehovah” could have no effect on literal animals; thus these verses must primarily apply to people. The Messiah’s rule sponsors a global education program, teaching people about Jehovah and his ways, teaching all to treat their fellowman with love, respect, and dignity. In the coming Paradise, the Messiah will miraculously raise mankind to physical and moral perfection. The predatory, animalistic traits that mar imperfect human nature will be gone. In a literal sense, also, mankind will come to be at peace with the animals—at last!
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Jehovah's Witnesses came by today.
by 3rdgen inthis morning i was in our front yard sitting down pulling weeds when i saw 3 people slowly walking on the sidewalk in my direction.
2 of them were young, handsome, clean shaven, wearing nice crisp white shirts and perfectly tailored black slacks.
they could have been mormons except.... there was a 60ish portly woman wearing a frumpy dress and ugly sandals.
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blondie
We have been not been involved for over 20 years, and never had anyone call on us door to door, nor have we seen anyone in our neighborhood, or had the neighbors mention jws being around, even before covid. I don't think our house is marked by the congregation not to call on, we aren't df'd or da'd. I don't think I would bother talking to them. Just wave them away without opening the door. No pearls before swine.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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blondie
Riley, not culled. Since he is no longer on the GB, he has not been used to make any more new ones. Yes, good to double check something like that, that is how wrong info gets passed along and allows jws to discount anything else you might tell them.
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Are you glad you got the Covid Vaccine? Did it help?
by liam ini didn’t get the covid vaccine, but i admit, i was scared as shit i made the wrong decision because there was so much confusion out there.
practically all my family and most of my friends took the vaccine because everyone was depending on those in charge to speak the truth.
now a lot of them are sick, and they can't figure out why.
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blondie
I had vaccinations, never got covid, still haven't. It is not meant to be total immunity, but to keep any case less deadly, or a fewer symptoms. I grew up being vaccinated for small pox, polio, typhoid, diptheria, things that had killed many people before vaccines. My aunt lost a baby during her polio, my grandmother had to listen to her baby, choke to death from diptheria. My hairdresser had polio and recovered with no paralysis, but then at 50 developed a late blooming loss of some muscle use, and had to quit work. Yes, I saw people get shingles, people who had chickenpox as a kid, from the germ lingered to bloom forth later in life. Very painful sores around the waist area that last for a very long time. Several relatives and workmates had it, I saw it and the pain they were in. Some people today were born after those years and had no first hand knowledge of the harm it caused them and others.
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Would you be able to survive a three day Assembly?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.
the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.
i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.
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blondie
I was barely walking when we went to a convention in NYC in 1955. I went to Pasadena in 1963 (114,000 at the Rose Bowl). Those were 8 days, with field service in the morning, afternoon and evening sessions. Slowly the WTS cut it back to 5, then 4, then 3 days and less going out door to door to invite people to the convention. I survived a lot, super hot in 1963, smog was still around and made people sick, seats were hard, we had umbrellas to protect us from sun, and large jugs of water so not to get dehydrated. The WTS had plumbed pipes with holes where water bubbled out in the outdoors. Just bent over and drank cool water, we went ever during the sessions. It rained one day and water flowed down the seats, but we weren't there, we went a sealife park. We took off one day and went to Disneyland. We were wicked. It was boring, and Fred Franz had the closing talk and he went over 45 minutes at least. We left before the end to beat the jws leaving. But Billy Graham was having a large group near by and it was the battle driving of the holy ones. We discovered tacos and had a swimming pool at our motel. It was fun then. But I was young then. But I remember very little from the sessions. I could never endure it now, my last day with anything WT was at a circuit assembly, where I left at the lunch break and never attended anything jw-related after that. I woke up that Sunday and did not have to go to an assembly again, or a meeting or "field circus" and could sleep in, get up and drink my coffee and read the paper, and stay in my pajamas. I was like being let out of a prison I had been in for 40 years.