https://youtu.be/sptboe8_kuc?si=cnb837qqdlm1glx0.
this is a question that has preoccupied the minds of the governing body " when will the last anointed be taken up to heaven?
" when did this nonsense begin ?
Edited found new info: "When does the marriage take place? All the 144,000 will be in heaven just before the war of Armageddon is fought. However, that will not be the time for the marriage of the Lamb. (Read Revelation 21:1, 2.) The marriage of the Lamb takes place after the war of Armageddon has been fought and all of God’s enemies have been removed. WT May 2022 p. 17
So new info: Marriage of Christ takes place AFTER the war of Armageddon has been fought...But no supporting evidence
thinking sometimes about my youth days and the stories my grandfather told me about our jw congregation.
do you recognize that your congregation was full of somehowe strange folks, very low educated, poor and simple?.
the po was an elder with some distance, with some personality acting intelligent and following the rules strict.. there was always a kind of scandal.
As to the quality of leadership, if anything it has gotten worse! Obedient to the WTS elders stay in, others who rock the boat are told to shut up or lose their "position", "bad" elders are rewarded. Imagine the WTS was the kind of organization that put men in charge of building projects who were "spiritually" qualified but did not know how to use a hammer, or pipe wrench... I saw it many times. It is like it says in their bible, "so ignore them. They are blind guides leading the blind, and if one blind person guides another, they will both fall into a ditch.”"
i got an email notice today on this excellent letter of resignation from a german family that is trending on reddit.
i thought i would share it here if anyone is so inclined to write one.
for those with pimi jw family and jw business connections, it may not be wise to share such a letter, but i imagine it must be very freeing to send such a letter.
BA, good letter, but...elders and jws would unlikely read it officially past the 2nd paragraph. But good info for non-jws and PIMOS to read.
on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
stan livedeath, I doubt it the Accounting Department keeps a close eye on "their" money. Better to commit adultery than steal the WTS money.
the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.
yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.
they are not trusted.
MIkejw
My parents didn't take the vax, Dad is an elder, and neither did some of the other elders and their families.
So your parents can’t go to any JW schools or special meetings? They would just lie about having been vaccinated...elders lie?! Unless they had to present a valid shot document (I doubt it).
to me it is quite evident that the gt spoken about in matthew 24, mark 13 and luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving jews throughout the nations.. however, what is not so clear to most is that the gt of revelation deals with the same event.
my understanding is that the gb of jehovah witnesses has no clue as to how to interpret the apocalyptic messages found both in the synoptics and revelation.
but steve greg has armageddon down pat.
Beth Sarim, good answer, it is hard to explain to a non-jw because they have not been brainwashed to accept the "adjustment" and "clarification" concept of interpretation by the WTS. They say they do not speak for their god, but in essence they do, implying what they say should not be questioned even if "seems" wrong. How could you expect a non-jw to accept any explanation the WTS makes for the changes. One of my aha moments. Can't their god get it right the first time!
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption .
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
I can believe that he something come up. I am not for 5 days at a time and not often.
according to the next boe letter to be read at next week's midweek meetings in the united states,.
the theme of the convention for next year is.
pure worship.
1914 + 120 years given to Noah to building ark before flood came brings us to 2034. (I just thought this) So my husband says "No more, in thirty-four"
rev18:23 '....you deceived the nations with your sorceries'.. the interlinear for sorceries reads pharmakeia.. bible hub has some interesting definitions, i'll try to share screenshots below.
the gist of it is that sorcery involves drugs/medicines/poisons, with or without spells, sorcery is not the same as witchcraft or divination, or white/black magic.
i have long wondered about the connection between the medical/pharmaceutical industry's symbol of the serpent wrapped around a pole/stake, and the use of the word pharmaceuticals/pharmacy.. considering the common use of fluoride in public drinking water, nsaids with side effects such as depression, brain fog, dizziness, and opioids, mrna gene therapy, vaccines and so on, i wonder am i going mad, are these all coincidences??
Thanks for that link Not Former
