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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

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  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  WAR begins.

  by lastmanstanding in

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  things are moving right along.

  “israel” has gone to war with iran.. who is fooled?.

  this is uncle sam, same as in ukraine.. daniel layed out clearly the events of “d day” june 6, 1944 as the “ships of kittim” would sail against the king of the north.

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  SPIMI Friend Asked Me For The Name Of My (FORMER) Congregation

  by HiddlesWife in

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  a present-spimi friend texted me to ask me the name of my congregation--which is my former and last one that i left right after becoming completely/presently pomo.

  she was a longtime buddy, who was pimq-pimo-ppimi-on-occasion for many decades.

  then shortly before the pandemic, she was dating a brother who was reaching out to become an ms [mind you, this guy was a mic-handler for several decades as well--until an older brother (who was a close friend of his uncle--who converted him into the cultporation years ago--encouraged him to the point of harrassing him to move up the wt corporate ladder🙄😤].

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  I wonder too, Mikejw.
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  How Did Watchtower Sell the "Jonadab" Concept ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.

  that's how they sold it.

  the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!

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  blondie

  dropoffyourkeylee,

  Not many jws or ex-jws know this point. The WTS once said only the anointed are Jehovah's witnesses, saying that Isaiah 43:10-12 was said to the Jews as being "witnesses of Jehovah" so the witnesses of Jehovah in this time have to be "spiritual Israelites" = anointed. So as you point out for some time in the 50's and 60's, it was as you pointed out. "The “Jonadabs” were not even considered to be “Jehovah’s witnesses” originally. (See The Watchtower, August 15, 1934, page 249" "Proclaimers Book chap. 10, p. 141-2) "Jehovah’s servants began to realize that it was spiritual Israel, “the Israel of God,” composed of spirit-anointed Christians, who, in fulfillment of God’s purpose, were enjoying peace with God through Jesus Christ."
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  Armageddon 50th Anniversary

  by apostrate in

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  well, it's been 50 years since armageddon occurred.. seems to me that things haven't really changed all that much.

  is it just me or does anyone else seem to think that things have actually got worse??

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  • • 2015 We are convinced that the sign Jesus gave is being fulfilled right now and that the end is coming very soon.

      2013 Very soon now, that day will be here, and Jehovah will destroy every part of Satan’s world.

      2011 Very soon now, he will begin bringing the earth back to the perfect state he originally purposed.
      2008 Very soon now, what Jesus called the “great tribulation” will occur.
      2008 He is ruling there now, in our own time, and very soon he will extend his rule to all the earth and fulfill the magnificent prophecies we have already mentioned.
      2007 Very soon now this old system of things will end.
      1987 They now form a people living in genuine peace, and they are preparing for the time, very soon, when the earth will be ruled only by God’s Kingdom.
      1974 The Bible shows that the bad conditions now laid to overpopulation are a sign that very soon this selfish system of things will be replaced by a government of the world under its one Head, Jesus Christ
      1970 All its rich promises, its attractive well-paying jobs, its popular activities​—all are due to vanish from the earthly scene very soon now.
      1954 When Christ wields the “rod of iron,” which he will do very soon now, it means that all the kingdoms of this world will be smashed out of existence.
      1951 Those who long to live under a just and righteous rule in peace and contentment will have their prayers answered, and that very soon now.
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  Unbaptised publishers

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a child grows up in a congregation to jw parents, they can go in the ministry even if they get to teenagers and they still haven’t become an unbaptised publisher they can still go on the ministry.

  if someone comes into the truth at an older age, they’re not allowed to go on the ministry until they are an unbaptised publisher only then can they put their first report in.

  what if the child grows into his late teens and he still hasn’t become an unbaptised publisher?

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  mikejw, "what if the child grows into his late teens and he still hasn’t become an unbaptised publisher? What if he just continues coming to meetings going on the ministry but never becomes an unbaptised publisher? Is he allowed to go on the ministry on his own?" I do believe an unbaptized publisher is a person who has been studying for some time, has stopped doing things that could lead to being "removed" if baptized, and in the past turned in time on his first time slip. That is no longer done, but they still have to say they did put some time in that month. At one time the WTS described it as being engaged but not yet married. The expectation is not for long engagements, but to marry within a "reasonable" time (not 5 to ten years). Actually, the WTS does not tell someone they can't preach, even as a restriction when taken off reproof (reinstated jw or one reproved privately). They can say you can't be in the ministry school, but can't take away the preaching aspect. (shows what the WTS values more). Will there pressure, yes, but not in writing, just "encouragement" often. Will emphasize you can't be used in the congregation for mikes, sound, attendants, etc., (Ministerial servant duties) and definitely not an elder.
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  BOOK STUDY OR BIBLE STUDY?

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  *** km 9/76 p. 8 question box ***.

  might a discussion using the bible alone be reported as a study?

  (…) but at times persons are unwilling to use any literature other than the bible.

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  Not Former, last I knew a "return visit" is making another contact with the same individual, face to face, phone call, e-mail, text, snail mail, etc. (used to be call backs--then back calls) Organized to Do Jehovah's Will (older elders manual) Chapter 8, p. 80-81 "In reporting “Return Visits,” count the total number of calls made for the purpose of furthering interest previously shown by someone who is not a dedicated, baptized Witness. A return visit can be made by means of a personal visit, by writing a letter, making a telephone call, sending a text message or an e-mail, or delivering some literature. Each time a home Bible study is conducted, a return visit can be counted. A parent may count up to one return visit each week when taking the lead during family worship with an unbaptized child present.
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  Am I a Return Visit?

  by NotFormer in

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  well, i'm still processing this one.

  saturday morning just gone.

  my wife says: "there's a man in a suit at the door!

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  NotFormer, the US doesn't not have Privacy laws like in the UK. So I live in the US now and there is no such protection so far, so lists are kept, in the past on "territory cards." Or passed along by word of mouth to avoid that house. The UK and the US have different legal frameworks for protecting personal data privacy. The UK operates under the UK GDPR, which is similar to the EU GDPR, and the Data Protection Act 2018. The US has a more fragmented system, with various laws at the federal and state levels, including the Privacy Act of 1974, which applies to federal agencies. A key difference is the UK's focus on comprehensive data protection regulations, while the US often relies on sector-specific laws and industry self-regulation.
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  Few JW leader have children

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s been discussed before that few jw leaders, past and present, have had children.

  this is in contrast with other groups, such as the mormons, whose leaders have had a lot of children.

  i wonder if this has impacted jw growth.

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  I remember when that article came out in the 10/15/1996 WT p. 8, if the WTS says "report" means that they have received CO letters from all over pointing out the problem. "As noted, the main thrust of Paul’s argument is that when a man marries, he relinquishes a measure of the freedom he had as a single man that permitted him to be in “constant attendance upon the Lord without distraction.” 1 Corinthians 7:35) Reports show that some married elders have not always been balanced in reasoning on Paul’s inspired words. In their desire to accomplish what they feel good elders should do, they may overlook some of their husbandly duties. Some would find it difficult to refuse a congregation privilege, even if accepting it would clearly be to the spiritual detriment of their wives. They enjoy the privileges that go with marriage, but are they willing to fulfill the responsibilities that go with it?

  Certainly, zeal as an elder is commendable. Still, is a Christian balanced if, in discharging his duties in the congregation, he disregards his Scriptural responsibilities toward his wife? While desiring to support those in the congregation, a balanced elder will also be concerned about his wife’s spirituality. Some elders’ wives have become spiritually weak, and some have experienced spiritual “shipwreck.” 1 Timothy 1:19) While a wife is responsible for working out her own salvation, in some cases the spiritual problem could have been avoided if the elder had ‘fed and cherished’ his wife, “as the Christ also does the congregation.” (Ephesians 5:28,29)) To be sure, elders must ‘pay attention to themselves and to all the flock. (Acts 20:28)) If they are married, this includes their wives. (notice how many times the WTS says balanced, without giving any examples and specific ways to do things differently).
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  How Did Watchtower Sell the "Jonadab" Concept ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.

  that's how they sold it.

  the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!

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  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1925.php Why the Jonadab explanation: By 1925 (the then predicted date of the end) 90,434 attended the memorial (all Bible students then (late changed to Jehovah's witnesses by Rutherford in 1931) so all were self-professed "anointed." Fast approaching 144,000. So the WTS had to come with an explanation for that. First, how many anointed were there in the 1st century, were there any between 100 CE to 1874 CE? Especially when the "end" did not come in 1925 as WTS predicted. The attendance dropped considerably after that as the following graph shows.

  Preaching that the earthly resurrection would commence in 1925 resulted in tremendous growth for the Watchtower Society.

  "This resulted in bringing into the sanctuary many more to be members of this remnant consecrated by Jehovah. This was evident from the increasing attendance at the annual celebrations of the Lord's evening meal,
  32,661 participating in 1922;
  42,000 in 1923;
  62,696 in 1924; and
  90,434 in 1925. ...
  89,278 [in 1926]"
  Watchtower 1960 May 1 p.282