Waton, if I understand "exactly, I believe JJ was mistaken about that. that idea was not a wt doctrine for the last 70 years", I was trying to show how the WTS changes their beliefs whenever they start getting backed into the corner on the current one. I always wondered if the anointed were to live through Armageddon and live on the earth afterwards for a time, that would mean they would not be in heaven for the wedding of Jesus and the Bride of Christ. (now remember this does not mean I think this now, just reporting, not supporting). It bothered me for quite awhile and I commented on it here on JWN, but then patience paid off, the WTS changed it to the current belief. I always wondered if certain jws read my comments and realized they had to change it?
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49Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon
by joey jojo inat the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.
it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.
im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.
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Links to articles of letter of recomendation
by jojorabbit ini am new to this forum.
i was a former jehovah's witness for many years.
i have a question maybe some of you can help me with.
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blondie
The thing I remember, is that no one can "earn" everlasting life. It is how we live our life up until Armageddon per the WTS. Life is a gift, there is no way to buy it, since humans in the bible are considered imperfect, and only a perfect person can pay the price. It is not a competition to see how many people you study with become jws. Converting a person is a group effort. Just reporting, not supporting WTS ideas. There are some people who have never seen a person they study with become jws. So will the person who does, get a greater reward, everlasting life for all who do their best and are faithful to their end. Letters of recommendation really are not better than spending time with the individual and seeing for yourself what kind of person he/she is. Your actions speak louder than any other person's words about you.
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How To Talk About Interpretation With Jehovah's Witnesses.
by Vanderhoven7 inthis from my book: good news for jehovah's witnesses.
before we discuss any doctrinal issues, i would like to distinguish between what i believe is proper versus improper interpretive practice.... so you know what i can accept as biblical and what i can't accept.. basic guidelines for validating doctrinal claims`).
i. there must be at least one scriptural reference that can be cited for support of any doctrinal claim or position.. ii.
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blondie
truth_b_known, yes, it is amazing what you can learn by reading a bible without the WTS nonsense ringing in your ear. Sometimes people think I believe the nonsense as I am trying to show the official stance of the WTS, by saying "reporting not supporting."
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Blood: When an Active JW is Health POA for non-JW
by JW_Researcher inmy mother has designated my sister as her ‘designated health care representative.’ my sister has sworn to my mother that, if my mother needs blood, my sister will not refuse it.
there are no anticipated (key word) needs for blood at this time.
my mother is in her early 80s.. my mother has never been a jw but is very familiar with all aspects of jwdom and understands the risk of my sister not allowing blood if my mother needed it.
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blondie
Thanks, JW_Researcher. Yes, it was a tricky situation and all the jw family members had to have a powwow so we would all be on the same page. Rules and laws, written and unwritten drives the WTS.
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Share This?
by blondie ini notice now that ops have a "share this" in the upper right hand corner.
i know how to do it on fb, how do we do it here?.
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blondie
I clicked on it and nothing happened. What service supports it so I can see if I have it and it is not working for some reason, or have my computer updated. Thanks for responding.
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Bad Associations spoil useful habits. Are the JWs right? Scripturally?
by Open mind init has been interesting for me to learn the various ways that the jws twist the scriptures to fit their own dogma.
(of course jws aren't alone in that, but that's another topic.
) two quick examples of jws not following or going beyond the bible are blood and birthdays.
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blondie
I agree, Foolednomore, I didn't even trust ex-jws that I really didn't know. Ex-jws can change their mind and want to go back and will use the info on you to make their own case look good to the elders.
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Congregation in PA sues over mandatory reporting
by Corney inivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.
it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.
to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.
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blondie
Rattigan, in the Catholic Church, one person confesses to one priest privately, but the priest does not share it with other priests. It is different with the WTS, because 3 elders are involved in the judicial committee or even if just discussing that person with the whole BOE, it is not the same. So I feel based on the Catholic Church handling of this, not even telling court/law enforcement, the WTS is being deceptive about this. But as informed ex-jws inform the non-jw secular law systems, those secular systems are having their eyes opened.
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2022 - 1914 = ?
by fedup inobviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.
forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.
the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.
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My husband was a newly baptized jw as we started coming up on 1994 and the WTS did a little song and dance article on what generation meant. Then in 1995 they hit members with the big explanation of how the new meaning of generation affected the 70 or 80 year scripture. I had told my husband after I read the article when the WT came in the mail, I told my husband and he said, "You predicted that 2 years ago." I am a prophet and didn't know it. And know the WTS has adjusted that using "overlapping generation." I wonder what they would say if the day comes when that teaching becomes outdated? I figure I will not be around to see it though.
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Oct 8 1966 Awake! PDF-- pushes 1975 date
by cabasilas indetails about how to download the october 8, 1966 awake!
magazine pdf will appear at the end of this post.
background.
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blondie
Fisherman, that concept of not knowing the day and the hour and Jesus and the angels, and the numbers the WTS developed based on when Eve was created, was adjusted in the Aid to Bible Understanding from 130 years after to Eve being created just after Adam, because time was running out, it didn't look like by even doing that, 1975 would come and go and no "end." Then when people were disappointed and many left during 1977 and 1978 posting a negative increase, the WTS blamed members for "running ahead." In 1980 the WTS finally said perhaps the WTS and been too definite about 1975. Perhaps...
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2022-05-04-Adjustment to Amount of Time for Isolation from In-Person Meetings!
by Atlantis in2022-05-04. announcement:.
adjustment to amount of time for isolation from-in-person meetings.. .
https://www.filemail.com/d/phdvcdkungxjpkn.
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blondie
Have you ever wondered how the WTS got away with having segregated congregations , especially in states that passed and enforced Jim Crow laws. The WTS reasoned that those laws did not prevent them from "preaching the good news." Just have segregated congregations and let black jws talk to the black people, and white jws to the white people. Problem solved! As laws started changing in the mid-60s, the WTS started slowly changing. But since black people were restricted as to where they could buy a home or live, they were segregated defacto. So congregations still remained mostly black or white. Also, the WTS did not want to "offend" the white people. There were not even many black people at Bethel. Many reasons for that. Even when I was still going, the WTS sent black elders and families to mostly white congregations and vice versa trying to break the color barrier. They pissed off a lot of white jws doing that.