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  1975 on the back burner

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  “1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.

  according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.

  it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.

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  blondie

  I have mentioned this several times on JWN, the WTS stopped mention 6,000 year creative days in 1987. This a technique the WTS has used regarding some base "teachings" in the past rather than bringing attention to the change. This was the technique the WTS used regarding having or not having vaccinations. In 1953, a confused jw wrote into the WTS, which was printed in the Questions from Readers section in the WT, in the back of the article, figuring many if not most jws were lucky if they read the study articles. "Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week. (Revelation 20:6; Genesis 2:2, 3) Based on this reasoning, the entire creative week would be 49,000 years long." January 1, 1987 Questions from Readers, p.30 (Nada after than, except a quote from a publication pre-1987). I remember being a Tuesday night book study, re-studying a publication that was originally printed pre-1987 using the 6,000 year creative statement. The conductor had become a jw long after 1987 and had no idea about the original teaching. A jw when answering the question didn't even notice that the WTS had re-printed to book, changing that teaching to "thousands and thousands of years." The conductor corrected him because the conductor had the re-printed version. The original jw was confused. Prior to studying the book at the Tuesday study, the WTS had encouraged older jws to get the newer version to use because the old one would be underlined, messy, and those jws would just rely on the old underlining. Well, the original jw was poor and could not afford a new book, having to buy food with it.) So most jws today have never heard the phrase of a 7,000 year creative day. And unless the read old publications (but barely taking time to read the new ones), they would have to be a jw like I was and loved reading old publications and I started seeing the "updates" that disappeared by the wayside.

  
  
  • W87 1/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers
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  Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..

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  blondie

  I was reading about PIMI, PIMO, POMO, PIMA, I figure PIMA is really OM, out mentally if they acknowledge to themselves they are agnostic. Then when the picket fence gets so high, then they have to re-evaluate their "stance" on being agnostic, can they stay or is it time to leave physically. That is pick one side of the fence or the other, as the picket reaches their crotch. I was on 2 sides regarding being agnostic/atheistic before I realized that my belief in the WT god was gone and then as well as any god. So I left physically, mentally out so to speak. But after about 2 years quibbling about my non-belief in god, I finally admitted, that the god of any religion if existing was not something I wanted to identify with. I could not believe that that god would let people suffer through no action of their own so horribly. I could not believe that god lets little children be sexually injured/attacked by adults and then tell self-identified Christians or jws in charge say these little children must continue to suffer, or be blown apart during human wars, etc. I could not believe that little children with both parents non-jws, would die eternally at the WT teaching of Armageddon. So, I recognize that really means I am an atheist. I am not sitting in judgment on those who continue to have faith. But for me, I cannot do it. So whatever others label us or definitions of atheist/agnostic they use, it is our own careful examination of what we think and do in that area. There is no group of atheists, agnostics or similar that have the same ideas about which category they themselves feel they are in. Self-examination is the only we can know ourselves. Well, sorry for the speech, but these ideas have been occurring to me. Blondie, thanks if you read this. My beliefs, but don't have to be yours per me.
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  Details of Noah’s Ark

  by enigma1863 in

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  2. beliefs

  jw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?

  name one person outside of noah’s family.

  name one nephilim.

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  blondie

  enigma, what is Noah's wife's name, or his daughter-in-laws? I asked that question a few times. I was met with blank faces.
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  2023-01-27--Civil Unrest!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2023-01-27--civil unrest.

  click image to enlarge.. .

  https://postimg.cc/gxqvnfcq.

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  blondie

  I would think that the government is smart enough to get warrants also to search the elders' homes.
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  CBS NEWS Report: Pittsburgh woman testifies for grand jury investigation into JWs and child abuse

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/video/pittsburgh-woman-testifies-for-grand-jury-investigation-into-jehovahs-witnesses-and-sexual-abuse/#x.

  pittsburgh woman testifies for grand jury investigation into jehovah's witnesses and sexual abuse.

  kdka investigator andy sheehan interviewed a woman from pittsburgh who's cooperating with an ongoing state investigation into the jehovah's witness church, testifying before a state grand jury about being sexually assaulted when she was 12 years old and how she says church elders told her she was to blame.mar 6, 2023. .

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  blondie

  Thanks, Barbara, for keeping us up to date.
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  why are we interested in what is going on in the JW

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for the most of us, we have left the jws...and even though we are no longer jw, many of us are still interested in their beliefs, doctrines and practices as currently practiced.

  i was trying to sort out in my mind why i still care about what they are doing.

  i think the answer to that is a hope that something will develop in the jws that will wake up a lot of others, and selfishly, a lot of my friends.

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  blondie

  I would think some ex-jws or faders are still interested because they have family still in the WTS and perhaps friends. Some of these people may try to share the new good news with them. This way ex-jws/faders will know what they might use and be prepared to present other new info or reason with them kindly with thought-provoking questions.
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  Statement of the day

  by road to nowhere in

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  during today's wt: "satan has the world on a treadmill wearing blinders"..

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  blondie

  road to nowhere, what issue of the WT is that? I did a search on WOL and nothing popped up.
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  Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany

  by EdenOne in

  1. social
  2. current

  mass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.

  at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.

  single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.

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  blondie

  https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-hamburg-mass-shooting-six-29419580
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  Prediction of Watchtower in a Few Years

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  kingdom halls will be the thing of the past.. conventions (mini assembly halls will still be going on) but will charge for attending and parking and always a donation.

  elders will play a much smaller role since csa.

  cart preaching will replace door to door.

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  blondie

  Awhile ago, the Worldwide Church of God split into 2 parts because a disagreement of core teachings. They still exist for in a smaller form. But it depends on who you ask as to the reason why and who is the "right" part. https://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/about/faq/id/35/why-did-worldwide-church-god-break-up-what-does-this-mean-prophetically.htm https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/1993/november-8/theology-mainstream-moves-may-split-worldwide-church-of-god.html
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  "Mankind's Search for God" book

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this book was published around 1990, but was never studied (to my knowledge).

  does anyone know the reason why?.

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  blondie

  That's true cyberjesus. A few jws did actually look up all the scriptures and side material (I did) and did not regurgitate the info in the paragraphs. In fact, too many jws prefaced their "comments" with "the paragraph says."