Posts by blondie

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God, Jesus, & Holy Spirit - never mentioned together in one authentic verse.

by BoogerMan in

in every scripture where god & jesus appear, the holy spirit is always awol/mia.. probably explains the existence of binitarians..

blondie

The only place I have seen that phrase is in Matthew 28:19 All other references don't mention the holy spirit. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, (RNWT)

The baptism questions asked of people being baptized as jws in 2006 where "holy spirit" was replaced with "holy-spirit directed organization: On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?

And the 2017 WT publication repeats that: Have you dedicated your life to Jehovah and symbolized your dedication by water baptism? If so, that is wonderful! Recall that on your baptism day, before eyewitnesses, you were asked whether you had dedicated yourself to Jehovah and understood that “your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization.

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Confirmed: CO Discourages Zoom

by XBEHERE in

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i can confirm that the co during one of his service talks stated that zoom is a provision for elderly, infirmed, as well as people who might need it on occasion due to health reasons, otherwise you are expected to be in person at meetings and in the ministry.

this had to come down from the top.

maybe they do not want to put it in a gb update or broadcast since that would be too public i suppose.

blondie

BOEs in a letter from the WTS said that BOEs have to submit a request to the CO to continue using Zoom, and he will be deciding whether or not to continue. Seems like the WTS is following through and have the CO "encourage" congregations to go back to in person meetings. Before Zoom, meetings were put live on phone calls, but jws had to be vetted to see if they "qualified" to have it, then were given a password to connect to the live sound. The password was not to be shared with anyone else, and was changed every month. I can see a version of this in using Zoom.

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Does the WTS have a clergy class (yes-no)

by blondie in

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wt 2021 october p.20 "in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.

although we respect those who are taking the lead, we accept jesus’ clear teaching: “all of you are brothers.”".

ijbq article 92 point 6: in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.

blondie

The WTS relies on semantics, quibbling about details. The word clergy is not even used in the bible, and the WTS cherry-picks scriptures and uses weasel words. The WTS claims to have a clergy when they are in a secular court trying to block the secular authority from having access to "secret" damaging info, but then the WTS wants to say they are better than religions that have a clergy. As to not having a "laity," if the WTS claims to have a clergy to the secular authorities, then they must have a laity.

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Petra--2023 PDF--Editions!

by Atlantis in

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pdf editions.

uk addendum to shepherd the flock.

english--elder manual.

blondie

Beth Sarim, when my husband was still an elder and I was on here (he didn't ask), I told him about the non-letter to the BOE about the change in how blood transfusions. I had learned on JWN that the CO just read it to the elders, would not let them look at it, let alone make a copy. My husband asked that it looked like a letter to him and even had the WT Logo on the top of the non-letter. (My husband was and is at looking through letter paper and seeing what was on the other side). My husband was a new elder, and the other elders gave him a look that meant he should stop talking. He came home and asked me how I knew that before the elders did. Yes, the info was hot off the press on here. It has to come from elders still in the WTS who are PIMO.

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History Puzzle

by vienne in

i'm trying to solve a mystery for uncle b. he owns three antique tracts that were bound into one volume for william morris wright, for six years a society director.

two are easy to identify.

its title is: "the times of the gentiles, and the things which are.

blondie

When I met Jeff, many moons ago, I was very impressed with his knowledge and his willingness to share it. I just realized that I didn't want to be part of any religion. But he is great and his dad.

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Regional convention 2023

by sove in

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any streamed content from this years regional convention available with any of you guys?

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blondie

They used to change the covers of the Awake and WT to show people from that language area. They don't do that any more?

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History Puzzle

by vienne in

i'm trying to solve a mystery for uncle b. he owns three antique tracts that were bound into one volume for william morris wright, for six years a society director.

two are easy to identify.

its title is: "the times of the gentiles, and the things which are.

blondie

Nice to know. Good information, my grandparents were Bible Students during days of CTR. Left when Rutherford started changing history of the WTS. I find interesting info on here, I met the editor years ago.https://herald-magazine.com/category/authors/jeff-mezera/

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Petra--2023 PDF--Editions!

by Atlantis in

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friends

pdf editions.

uk addendum to shepherd the flock.

english--elder manual.

blondie

Yes, I goofed, I was in a hurry and forgot to jot down the source. Thanks for correcting that Atlantis. It is interesting though, typical move by the WTS, to say nothing, to shift the responsibility, and leave an opening to change the statement.

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And the lion shall eat straw like the ox

by Anony Mous in

the above verse is often quoted by jws both in general as a response to the idea of a deathless paradise and/or those promoting vegetarianism or veganism.. a letter in animal frontiers co-signed by nearly a thousand scientists is now warning that meat is crucial for a healthy lifestyle and livestock farming is too important to 'become the victim of zealotry'.. they stated the fact that most humans require the nutrients from eggs, meat and dairy and that plant based alternatives are at least 4x more expensive (which implies much higher energy consumption in the process) and not scalable and outright dangerous to global health to support a large population shift towards them.. they also called out several recent papers for misleading information and even called for the outright retraction of one that said meat substitutions are a viable alternative.. not sure what the modern jw view on this is, i know many people in the borg promoted it back in the day.

just goes to show that science does not support the notion of a global vegan diet..

blondie

Yes, Simon, this is one question I could never get a sound scientific answer, just parroted words from the WTS publications. When I started reading the bible from cover to cover, I had so many questions about things in Genesis, I never got to any other books.

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History Puzzle

by vienne in

i'm trying to solve a mystery for uncle b. he owns three antique tracts that were bound into one volume for william morris wright, for six years a society director.

two are easy to identify.

its title is: "the times of the gentiles, and the things which are.

blondie

https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2018/

William Morris Wright, bio on him further down the page November 3, 2018 This truthhistory.blogspot.com I think is written by a Bible Student.