But FFGhost, the phrase "governing body" still does not appear in the bible. Just like the word "organization." In fact, the WTS quotes often from the Encyclopedia Brittana saying the since the word "trinity" does not appear in the bible, there is no trinity doctrine supported by the bible. Kind of a 180 from the "proof" of a "governing body." Rather, The Encyclopædia Britannica observes: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”
Posts by blondie
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32Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!
by NotFormer ini remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).
i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.
colour me gobsmacked!
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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!
by slimboyfat ini know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.
at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.
in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.
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blondie
I went to a recruitment meeting/movie for people interested in LDS. It really opened my eyes to the ruling over your own universe. That beats the WTS somewhat.
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Ivana Trump grave at Trump's golf course
by SydBarrett inpeople who dislike trump will see this as an eyesore and an insult to his first wife and the mother of his 3 children.people who support trump will describe this as a beautiful natural setting, like a woodland.
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blondie
I saw that item just recently in my newspaper. Wow, what are her children doing about this?
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WT and Higher ED
by enoughisenough inwatched this video and was wondering if any of you recall seeing this video besides on this presenter's youtube platform.
anyway, watch it !
it is disgusting but enlightening.
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blondie
Here are some quotes about education in the WT publications assembled by an ex-jw. Worth looking at. https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/education.php
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Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!
by NotFormer ini remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).
i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.
colour me gobsmacked!
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blondie
PON, In fact, the phrase "governing body" never occurs in the bible ever. Using Acts 15, the WTS does as you say try to "imply" it does. This is how they do it, they say or write "the governing body (Acts 15)" implying that the phrase appears there. Many a long-time jw will assume it does, until I showed them it was not there. Long-time jws don't look that scripture(s) up any more, they have memorized a scripture that does not exist. Before 1971, the WTS never capitalized the phrase "governing body" and the governing body in the present was considered the board of directors of the WTS. What deceivers..
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'Governing Body' is more a secular term IMHO. Yet they try to imply there was one in Bible times. The deception is full on with this Corporation faking as a religion.
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Anthony Morris III demoted to Great Crowd!
by Vanderhoven7 inwell, that is my prediction for 2024 anyway!
hey, if watchtower can speculate..... https://youtu.be/dn8askhhwkw.
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blondie
The WTS re-invents its past by "editing out" old comments, and asking members to toss the old one. Not all jws are "obedient" not want to toss away previous study notes they made, or buy another publication (not free back then to members). One night, at a "congregation book study" in a private home, an elder new to being a jw, asked a question from the publication as to time in the bible. One older "brother" started talking about a creative day being 7,000 years ago, where in the new version of the book, now said thousands and thousands of years. The conductor corrected him, but afterwards that brother showed it to the conductor, an old version. How embarrassing, Often what the WTS does it stop mentioning an old teaching, and enough people die from that generation, and the new ones haven't a clue. Did the same with the teaching of 1975.
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Does the WTS have a clergy class (yes-no)
by blondie inwt 2021 october p.20 "in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
although we respect those who are taking the lead, we accept jesus’ clear teaching: “all of you are brothers.”".
ijbq article 92 point 6: in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
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blondie
Tonus, I missed this response. You said what I figured out. "blondie: Yet the WTS claims confidentiality under the clergy-penitent basis as to reporting child abuse cases to secular authorities identifying themselves as "clergy."
In other words, they do not have a clergy, until it is convenient to have one.
The WTS speaks out of both sides of the mouth, often.
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Anthony Morris III demoted to Great Crowd!
by Vanderhoven7 inwell, that is my prediction for 2024 anyway!
hey, if watchtower can speculate..... https://youtu.be/dn8askhhwkw.
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blondie
Questions From Readers: First part, complete quote is found at WT 1976 3/1 pp. 158-160
● Can an anointed Christian who is disfellowshiped later be reinstated and still have the heavenly hope?
Yes, that is possible. Of course, in each case Jehovah God is the one to determine whether he will extend forgiveness.
The fact that this is possible is borne out by what we read in the apostle Paul’s letters to the Corinthian congregation. He wrote to Christians who had been anointed by holy spirit and given the hope of heavenly life. Paul addressed them as “you who have been sanctified in union with Christ Jesus, called to be holy ones.”—1 Cor. 1:2; 15:49.
One of these anointed Christians began to practice fornication. When he evidently did not repent and stop his immorality, Paul directed the congregation to disfellowship him. (1 Cor. 5:1-5, 9-13) However, it seems that this disfellowshiped person thereafter did sincerely repent. He is understood to be the person whom Paul was referring to in his second letter when he advised the Corinthians to forgive and accept back the former sinner.—2 Cor. 2:6-11; 7:8-13.
When that man was reinstated into the congregation, what was his hope? Had he lost the heavenly calling, and had his hope now been changed to everlasting life on earth? No, for the earthly hope is not, as it were, a second-chance prospect...
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My defense speech before the judicial committee
by Disfellowshipped-Brother indear brothers!.
we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.
it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.
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blondie
I agree with slimboyfat, that the elders of a judicial committee, would never let someone before them say that, not even read a letter of that, would not go past 1st paragraph. Now, if it was for your benefit, I can see that to get your ideas together in writing. I couldn't even read very far. Best to make it brief and to the point.
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Will the G.B. ever give a "new light" on Romans 6:7?
by BoogerMan injehovah' witnesses are taught to believe that romans 6:7 refers to a person's own literal death:.
watchtower may 15th 1982, pp.
8,9 - "the bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed.
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blondie
I have not read the other comments, but in searching the WOL, I found this in the Study Notes of Romans on 6:7: where the WTS also references Romans 6:23 (see also notes on John 5:29): has been acquitted: Or “has been released (pardoned).” Lit., “has been justified.” The Greek word di·kai·oʹo used here is often rendered “to declare righteous.” The context shows that Paul was discussing spirit-anointed Christians alive at that time. They had been baptized into Christ Jesus and had received the valid prospect of heavenly life. However, in order to be anointed with holy spirit and accepted as spirit-begotten sons of God, they had to die figuratively to their former course of life as imperfect humans and have their sins forgiven by God. Then they could have human perfection imputed to them. In discussing this with regard to anointed Christians, Paul was drawing on a fundamental truth. He knew that the penalty for Adam’s sin was death. (Ge 2:17) So Paul reasons that one who has died has been acquitted from sin because by means of his death, he has paid the full penalty for sin. At Ro 6:23, Paul says: “The wages sin pays is death.” So when a person has died, his sinful record no longer stands against him. And if it were not for Jesus’ sacrifice and God’s purpose to resurrect the person, he would never live again. Still, he would remain acquitted from sin, since God would not reexamine his case and then sentence him to further punishment. (updated 2023)