Posts by blondie

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How many people thought about suicide after they were disfellowshipped

by Lee Marsh in

i know i was suicidal before i was disfellowshipped.

and it got worse after i left.

one night a friend told me that he went home the night before and wasn't sure if he would ever hear from me again.

blondie

When I left, realized that the only power they had over me, was the power I allowed them to have. I felt self-impowered. I know that is not usual. But I had already cut off contact with jws and jw family. I made a new life for myself. But I made no statements that I felt the WTS was not valid. Some tried to trick into saying it, but they had no success

They were mad that I had "df'd" them. But I had to work on changing my think for awhile. This DB helped me tremendously, examining why I was staying. Love Blondie

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Goodbye Mother

by punkofnice in

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so my mother passed on 20 aug 23 from the big c. i was there when she went.

that was indeed very traumatic.

i won't go to describe it.. dad went 17 years ago so there's just me now.

blondie

Sorry, to hear about your loss. It is so good you had family to help you with all the emotion and paperwork that comes with this. Yes, jw funerals have been recruitment ads for a long time. I have been to ones where the man giving the talk, mentioned the deceased life memories for about 60 seconds before launching into recruitment, some had never associated socially with the deceased (not da'd or df'd) and suddenly had time to attend the person's funeral. Let me tell you about something that happened in regard to a death of a jw and funeral. One day, one elderf noticed after some weeks, that an older woman who was faithful in attendance and "field service" who had a "non-believing" husband had not been there for some time.. Finally 2 elders went to call on her (unannounced of course), and her husband came to the door. The elders asked if his wife was home. Hubbie said, "she's been dead for 6 weeks and is buried, You can visit her at her grave," and shut the door in their face. So much for keeping track of the flock. Once again so sorry to hear of your loss. When you lose your last parent, it becomes a whole different world. Love, Blondie

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Looking for quotes

by no-zombie in

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i've tried but failed to find these quotes.

if anyone knows where they are, that would be great.. #1 reading the wt and awake magazines for a few years, is like getting a uni degree.. #2 don't bother learning old greek or hebrew because its a waste of time, besides we've got it covered.. thanks.

blondie

Try this website www.jwfacts.com They have a lot or researched articles on various topics on the WTS teachings and history. References where it can be found in WT publications, even long past.

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Are Elders prepared to take the fall for WT/GB misdemeanor's / crime ??

by smiddy3 in

i have been thinking about this in relation to the directive given to elders to destroy any incriminating evidence they may have either on their pc`s ,e-mails , private notes in their possession, or notes in their witnessing bags ,etc.

to do with child sexual abuse they may still have in their possession.. isn`t that encouraging the elders to interfere with the justice system ?.

to break the law?.

blondie

Just remember that the WTS/GB view all organizations except their own are under the control of Satan. They do not think that the US or Britain or France, etc., are any less likely to turn on them than Russia, Islamic religions, etc. So the WTS views them as enemies and "not entitled to the truth" that is being lied to. All these countries have varying laws regarding lying to the government, and the WTS will lie to all of them if the WTS deems it is necessary.

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Is JW.org going Broke?

by Vanderhoven7 in

https://youtu.be/e6gh6w7v03y.

blondie

As to going "bankrupt," I'm sure the WTS will have a way to semantically find a way to avoid that word, but not the reality. WTS says they don't tithe because they assess a dollar amount per publisher each month, and expect the congregation body of elders, pay that amount to the WTS. They make nice with words saying that if a congregation cannot afford it, that "other arrangements" can be made. Still tithing. Or that the anointed still alive on earth when the great tribulation starts, and the wedding of the Bride of Christ to Jesus (all of the 144,000 in heaven, can't have part of the bride miss their own wedding) happens shortly after what about:. With the GB made up of very young members, that would mean some would not die a natural death, and go to heaven. Is that the Rapture? I think so. With the WTS, it always about words.

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Disfellowshipped, Seeking Reinstatement

by NotFormer in

do disfellowshipped ones who want to be reinstated still have to sit up the back of the kingdom hall, away from everyone else, not allowed to speak to anyone?.

when did you realise that it wasn't worth it and finally decided to stop playing the game?.

is your life better now?.

blondie

Is this "clarification" related to the pressure being put on them by governments about the disfellowshipping and shunning of children?

I'm sure it is. I have seen many "adjustments" made by the WTS, driven by a negative legal experience because of treatment of df'd jws. In the past the WTS announced people as being df'd and name the specific sin, in an announcement from the stage at the "service meeting." It was also announced at other congregations the person had attended in the past in the area. They finally adjusted it to "is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses."

2021 "When we hear an announcement made at a Christian meeting that someone we know and love “is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses"

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Another gem from the latest Study WT!

by BoogerMan in

"consider the example of oleg and irina, a married couple who serve as pioneers.

after moving to assist a congregation in another area, they lost their source of income because of the worsening economic conditions in their country....... one day when they returned home from the ministry, they learned that a close friend had traveled about 160 kilometers (100 mi) to bring them two bags of groceries.

oleg says: “on that day, we once again experienced the depth of jehovah’s care and that of the congregation.".

blondie

enough, no I haven't. I'm sure it is good, but I have my experiences with the evil back room things of the WTS, personally and from reliable sources. I'm convinced that the foundation of the WTS is evil and infects everyone and everything that it comes in contact with. Now, I'm not saying there are the only organization that is like this, but it is one I am too familiar with.

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Another gem from the latest Study WT!

by BoogerMan in

"consider the example of oleg and irina, a married couple who serve as pioneers.

after moving to assist a congregation in another area, they lost their source of income because of the worsening economic conditions in their country....... one day when they returned home from the ministry, they learned that a close friend had traveled about 160 kilometers (100 mi) to bring them two bags of groceries.

oleg says: “on that day, we once again experienced the depth of jehovah’s care and that of the congregation.".

blondie

You can never confirm the WTS "experiences."

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So, What's Been Going On In Watchtower Land Since January 2023?

by JW GoneBad in

so what's been going on in wt land since january 2023?.

recap and summary of events most jehovah’s witnesses are not aware of:.

1) pennsylvania attorney general statewide investigation of jehovah’s witness elders' child sex abuse cases.

blondie

VIdiot, money talks.

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Help wanted finding images

by Lee Marsh in

i am working on a project that requires proofs that the wts did say it and jws believe and follow it.. i have found some but google is giving me a hard time with some things.. as i go i will post requests for various images.

they all must have a reference or at least post where i can find the reference and i will add it to the image.. both older and newer beliefs are welcome, especially flip-flops.. if you have something similar to what is already posted then more references the better.

i know there are images of the structure of the wts.

blondie

Yes, Lee, you can still "hang them with their own words." The WTS just quits mentioning those words, and hopes the jws either weren't in the WTS then, and the ones that were have convenient memories.