WingCommander, at least since Rome came and carried away the Jews and non-Jews came in lived there until 1948, and that ended it until 1948 when a new secular nation was established. Yes, too, at one time Israel was fighting against non-jewish nations, not necessarily Arabs though. There are so many feuds going on between groups that have last for a long time, and I think they have really forgotten how it started.
Posts by blondie
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13Guess who's coming to dinner.. Elder and nosey wife!
by Witness 007 inso my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!
he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!
he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.
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Letter of Disassociation to Former Religions / Baptism Questions ?
by HereIam60 inthis was prompted by some comments in another thread, but since it was somewhat "off" the original topic, i'm posting/asking seperately.... i was born in 1960, and baptized as a infant in a catholic church.
obviously i have no personal memory of this, and only know, because i was told, and we had a family photo of my parents holding me before the baptismal font while the priest prepared to do the sprinkling.
i was taken probably no more than 3 times to the catholic church in my early childhood and had no clue as to what was going on.. from the ages of 10 to 12 i attended a methodist sunday school, rarely the actual church service, but sang with the class in an annual christmas presentation in the church.. in the 1980s, studying with jehovah's witnesses, and considering baptism, i was told i had to write a letter to any religious group i had previously been involved with, stating i no longer wished any contact, wanted to be removed from their membership lists and witnessing as to why...(separation from satan's world, false religion, babylon etc.).
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blondie
Yes, the WTS has very little that is correct; in print they at least try to put on a good face; forgetting how easy it is for non-jws to get ahold of the "secret" books/info on the internet. Some religions are seeing a decrease. I don't try to determine that by one congregation or faith. Some are seeing increase. It went well with the lady. She loved having me come, I did warn her that not many jws stick by the scriptures. In my quest to find a group, I realized that the WTS is not the only one that has updated their teachings. Or also see themselves as the only true religion. I just keep my faith personal, not needing a human go-between. I don't really care about bible interpretation, who can know the mind of god? I focused on how to treat people like Jesus did and study those points, and then ask her could she see ways she could do that or do more of. That was the start of my exit from the Watchtower organization. Blondie
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Letter of Disassociation to Former Religions / Baptism Questions ?
by HereIam60 inthis was prompted by some comments in another thread, but since it was somewhat "off" the original topic, i'm posting/asking seperately.... i was born in 1960, and baptized as a infant in a catholic church.
obviously i have no personal memory of this, and only know, because i was told, and we had a family photo of my parents holding me before the baptismal font while the priest prepared to do the sprinkling.
i was taken probably no more than 3 times to the catholic church in my early childhood and had no clue as to what was going on.. from the ages of 10 to 12 i attended a methodist sunday school, rarely the actual church service, but sang with the class in an annual christmas presentation in the church.. in the 1980s, studying with jehovah's witnesses, and considering baptism, i was told i had to write a letter to any religious group i had previously been involved with, stating i no longer wished any contact, wanted to be removed from their membership lists and witnessing as to why...(separation from satan's world, false religion, babylon etc.).
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Jhine, I hope you didn't think I said this, I looked back at my post and didn't see that at all.
God isn't dead.
She had questions specifically about bible verses that she had asked her pastor about. He did not provide any answers from his religion's viewpoint. I never used any WT publications with her, just from her bible and just asking open-ended viewpoint questions. I did not talk about WTS doctrines, nor did I direct her answer. Her bible study group had similar questions, that is why she wanted them to see the answers from their bible. Most WTS comments are without merit, but they do have some correctly based on the bible. She could see that. I have found that some church members have questions about teachings in their own religion, without a bible basis being provided. I'm glad that is not going on with your church. Blondie
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Former Jehovah's Witness sentenced for child sexual assault
by blondie in6/3/2025 former jehovah's witness sentenced for child sexual assault shaun sheffer, 47, of harmony was found guilty in january of three counts each of rape and indecent assault, including assault of a person less than 13 who had a mental disability.
he also was convicted of corruption of minors.... https://triblive.com/local/regional/former-jehovahs-witness-sentenced-for-child-sexual-assault/ .
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6/3/2025 Former Jehovah's Witness sentenced for child sexual assault Shaun Sheffer, 47, of Harmony was found guilty in January of three counts each of rape and indecent assault, including assault of a person less than 13 who had a mental disability. He also was convicted of corruption of minors...
https://triblive.com/local/regional/former-jehovahs-witness-sentenced-for-child-sexual-assault/
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Remember using the term BORG to refer to the WTS
by blondie init's interesting that when watchtower is referred to as the borg, it immediately brings to mind the scenes where individuals such as captain piccard are held prisoner within a vast collective hive type prison and unable to leave.
they are then turned into drones.
in fact here is how wikipedia explains it.. the borg are a fictional alien group that appear as recurring antagonists in the star trek franchise.
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blondie
It's interesting that when Watchtower is referred to as the Borg, it immediately brings to mind the scenes where individuals such as Captain Piccard are held prisoner within a vast collective hive type prison and unable to leave. They are then turned into drones. In fact here is how Wikipedia explains it.
The Borg are a fictional alien group that appear as recurring antagonists in the Star Trek franchise. The Borg are a vast collection of "drones", or cybernetic organisms linked in a hive mind called "the Collective", or "the Hive". The Borg annex the technology and knowledge of other alien species to the Collective via a process of "assimilation": forcibly transforming individual beings into drones by violently injecting microscopic machines, or nanoprobes, into their bodies and surgically augmenting them with cybernetic components. The Borg's ultimate goal is "achieving perfection
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)
'The Borg' is a fitting expression for the watchtower organisation. At first it all seems so harmless, but then after a time having been injected with Watchtower teachings, we find ourselves turned into drones. When we realise we are enmeshed, it is too late. We are held in a captive state. Freedom seems almost impossible for many. No way out for some. Like many, I have been sadly assimilated by the borg
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Where r we now?
by sparrowdown inpost covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.
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blondie
And we all have ends believe it or not.
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Guess who's coming to dinner.. Elder and nosey wife!
by Witness 007 inso my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!
he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!
he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.
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blondie
DOC and others, you might like this commentary of jwfacts.com https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovahs-prophet.php "It is ironic that Watchtower condemns other religious and political organizations as false prophets, when it has spent decade's actively predicting wrong "end of the world" dates that did not occur, such as 1914 being the year for end of the world, 1925 being the start of the earthly resurrection, or more recently that the battle of Jehovah would be within the twentieth century.
Watchtower calls itself a prophet of God, comparing themselves to the prophets of old. This is a significant assertion when compared to the accuracy of Watchtower doctrine and the predictions about future dates." Many examples over the years from their own publications.
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WT AUGUST 2025: NEW LIGHT ON HAILSTONE MESSAGE : IS IT BIBLICAL OR JUST CONVENIENT?
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/n_fttvylm-m?si=l44406ohysubkajr.
so today we are considering, the watchtower's new take on the "hailstone message", and if you don't know what that is , they used to believe that according to revelation 16:21 they would be preaching a hard hitting message during the time of the end.
now, let's read the verse first from the new world translation: "then great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed god because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great" now this is their new understanding as it appears from the 3rd paragraph from their new watchtower study edition for august 2025 and their article:when will the preaching work end, has this to say: "our clarified understanding of matthew 24:14 also adjusts our understanding of the hailstonelike message foretold at revelation 16:21. further examination has revealed that the two scriptures complement each other.
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blondie
Listener, hahaha. They still "see through a glass darkly."
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Where r we now?
by sparrowdown inpost covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.
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blondie
post jw
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Will They Change the Memorial Talk This Year?
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/o5almnehew4?si=kdgrjgbiutjkvcxe.
i’m hoping the memorial talk will be different.
change the talk!
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blondie
Hope away, these are manuscript talks with fill-in the blanks appropriate for that congregation (just kidding). The speakers are so much less qualified today, can't change the script. Some elders don't prepare before giving a public talk, just think they have already given it, they don't need to prepare. If the WTS changed the script they would freak out. I always felt that was the worst talk to invite non-jws to but a little bit better than the funeral talks.
