Vanderhoven7:
Thank you! Very interesting video.
Atlantis!
thought this might be interesting for those considering leaving watchtower religion .
https://youtu.be/pjoor9e77g8.
Vanderhoven7:
Thank you! Very interesting video.
Atlantis!
i've been free of the jws for many years now and have a question about kh finance.. 1. is it true that all khs belong to the wt now?
2. when remodeling is done who pays for it?.
3. how are utilities paid?
You know as well as I do, that if the Watchtower is putting together an ownership contract, it is always in their favor.
How do you know when the Watchtower is lying? If their mouth is moving!
Those 2005 documents are 14 years old, so you know the Watchtower has found new ways to scam their members out of everything they have.
Paradise isn't free! JW's are paying plenty to get there with no guarantees!
Atlantis!
update of documents relating to new zealand association of jehovah's witnesses.
full financial returns from 2009 onwards (up to september 2019) and corporate governance documents.
https://jwleaks.org/world/new-zealand/.
jwleaks:
Excellent, thank you very much my friend!
Atlantis!
2019 congregation field service and meeting attendance report-s-1-e. https://docdro.id/tosesq0.
2019 elders meet with regular pioneers--special pioneers-and field missionaries.-s-211-20-e. https://docdro.id/or4rg4l.
what is the teaching toolbox mentioned in above elders meeting documents?
2019 Congregation Field Service and Meeting Attendance Report-S-1-E
i've been free of the jws for many years now and have a question about kh finance.. 1. is it true that all khs belong to the wt now?
2. when remodeling is done who pays for it?.
3. how are utilities paid?
peacefulpete:
2005 Information Regarding Ownership of Kingdom Halls.
it has been well documented that jehovah`s witnesses have long claimed that christendom has hidden the name of god for centuries.. and that they alone have restored that name in the last century,.
making it known in all of the earth for a witness.. nothing could be further from the truth .. 1.justus martinus a 13th century spanish monk took the four hebrew letters of the tetragrammaton for gods name and added vowels to those consonants and came up with hebrew letters to english jhvh and the vowels he added e o a. which amounted to jehovah ,remember this was in the thirteenth century by a spanish catholic monk.. 2.this name persisted throughout the centuries to this day ,in many so of christendoms writings etc,etc.. 3.churches of christendoms religions throughout the world have the name jehovah in stone on them engraved since that 13th century .
4.in the 1970`s if i remember correctly their was an international convention held around the world in which the jw`s released a publication of the conventions and the churches of christendom to the delegates showing these churches many of which had the name jehovah engraved in stone on them.......centuries old churches.
According to the Watchtower, Eve was the first to use the name of Jehovah.
Watchtower-1959-October-1st-pp.591-592
“WHY DEATH?
27 What is the Bible’s biography of Adam? Why did Adam die? The Holy Scriptures definitely indicate that God wisely put a curb on man’s Edenic freedom by law. This legal curb was to remind Adam as a son of God that he was a dependent creature with a purpose to perform, the divine will, the will of his heavenly Father. This guidance of man’s life would bring man greatest happiness. God said to his son Adam: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.” (Gen. 2:16, 17) Eve and Adam defiantly rebelled against the Sovereign Power of heaven and thus disobeyed and sinned, and brought upon themselves this penalty of death, against which they had been warned. The Bible continues to say: “With that Jehovah God put him [Adam] out of the garden of Eden to cultivate the ground from which he had been taken. And so he drove the man out . . . Now Adam had intercourse with Eve his wife and she became pregnant. In time she gave birth to Cain and said: ‘I have acquired a man with the aid of Jehovah.’ Later she again gave birth, to his brother Abel. . . . And Adam lived on for a hundred and thirty years. Then he became father to a son in his likeness, in his image, and called his name Seth. And the days of Adam after his producing Seth came to be eight hundred years. Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters. So all the days of Adam that he lived amounted to nine hundred and thirty years and he died.”—Gen. 3:23, 24; 4:1, 2; 5:3-5.
However, two year previous to the above quote in 1957 the Watchtower said, that it was in the days of Enosh when calling on the name “Jehovah” was started.
Watchtower-1957-April-15th-pp.234-235
“25 Because the first false god was his enemy and slanderer and had used a serpent to lead Eve and Adam into sin, Jehovah God called him “the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan.” (Rev. 20:2; 12:9, NW) Many of Adam’s grandchildren must have worshiped false gods. Many things that have to do with worship and that searching men have dug up from the earth from long ago serve to show that they did so. In the days of Adam’s grandson Enosh they even reached the point of calling other things by the name of Jehovah: “At that time a start was made of calling on the name of Jehovah.” (Gen. 4:25, 26, NW) False worship must have been speeded up when angelic sons of God in heaven disobediently came down from heaven by taking on the form of handsome men and marrying the good-looking women and raising children called Nephʹi·lim· “The Nephʹi·lim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones who were of that world, the men of fame. Consequently Jehovah saw that the badness of man had become great in the earth and every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.” What wonder that the earth was full of violence as a result of them! False worship always leads to that harmful result.—Gen. 6:1-5, 13, NW.”
Atlantis!
i really enjoyed it and thought i'd share for what it's worth.... https://www.crosswalk.com/faith/spiritual-life/how-you-can-heal-from-growing-up-in-a-legalistic-church.html.
NikL:
Thank you very much!
Atlantis!
2019 accounting training videos and files.. english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qgjbjiqyiv 2019 files and forms-english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qh1yjjaktk atlantis!
respectful_observer:
FatFreek 2005:
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Thank you both for your kindness! And FatFreek is buying for the whole house! Quick everybody, get in here while FatFreek is passing them around!
Atlantis!
page 13, par.
18 - "yes, we have good reason to rejoice over the good work and spiritual activity that we can expect when believing mankind enjoys life during christ’s millennial reign.".
hey "faithful slave," aren't you forgetting something?
The Fall Guy:
Thank you! Great information as usual!
Atlantis!
2019 accounting training videos and files.. english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qgjbjiqyiv 2019 files and forms-english and german--zipped folder.https://we.tl/t-qh1yjjaktk atlantis!
careful:
I wonder if these are being sent out to further trim spending and waste so that even more money can be squeezed out of those keeping financial records
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Well if money can be squeezed out of anything you know the Watchtower will find a way.
Many thanks!
Atlantis!