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  How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

  by EmptyInside in

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  i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

  instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

  they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

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  Atlantis

  Remember the word, "Opinion"!

  
  

  Watchtower/1915/November/1st/pgs.328-329

  
  

  Our readers should know that we never prophesied anything.

  We merely gave our opinions respecting prophecies and gave

  the reader the reasons for those opinions, showing the chapter

  and verse. Nothing in the Bible declared that the church

  would be glorified by the fall of 1914.

  
  

  Scan: Click image to enlarge.

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  Watchtower Accepts Money from the Norwegian gambling Authority

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  great find jonas!!!.

  https://youtu.be/yfqffc7vczo.

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  Atlantis

  Newly Enlightened:

  Thank you! The Tower would take money from the Mafia if they could. And there are times I think the Tower could teach the Mafia a few new tricks.

  Atlantis!
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  WTBTS investments

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this article, how be it from about 10 years ago.

  https://clarencesisk.com/watchtower-investments/ i didn't even go to the end of the article, but assuming the writer knew of which he wrote, wt had/has?

  stock in bot j&j and pfizer.

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  Atlantis

  Tobacco related information.

  
  

  https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_is_earning_money_from_the_tobacco_industry.html
  

  
  

  Grandpa!
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  WTBTS investments

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found this article, how be it from about 10 years ago.

  https://clarencesisk.com/watchtower-investments/ i didn't even go to the end of the article, but assuming the writer knew of which he wrote, wt had/has?

  stock in bot j&j and pfizer.

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  Atlantis

  GEORGE SAMUEL ZOLLINGER v. WATCHTOWER SOCIETY was the 1948-5? Michigan CONTEST of the WILL executed by testatrix Henrietta May Riley, whom had inherited a sizable estate when her husband, Dr. William Henry Riley, had died in 1941, and her "wealthy" unmarried only child had died in 1942.

  
  In 1948, the value of the Riley Estate was uncertain, but was estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. The Riley Estate consisted of several real properties in Virginia and Battle Creek, Michigan, but also included unspecified valuable Oil and Gas investments, which were managed by a Texan named Almon J. White.

  
  

  The creation of the Henrietta M. Riley Trust on or about 1970 appears to have coincided with the death of Almon White in 1970. George Zollinger (Tennessee) was a brother of Henrietta M. Riley, whom had been left only $1000.00, (and possibly a monthly annuity). Sister, Essie Jane Davis, of Albuquerque, N. M., was left two lots in Battle Creek, $5000.00, and $100.00 a month for life. Siblings, James G. Zollinger of Burlington, Colorado, Thaddeus G. Zollinger, and Ethel Betsie Bolton were left only $50.00 a month for life. Notably, Thaddeus and Ethel predeceased Henrietta, and the three surviving siblings died only one, two, and six years later.

  
  

  Thus, little money was paid out by the estate under the annuity provisions. A bequest of $5000.00 was made to Almon J. White of San Antonio, Texas. Daughter Marian White received $3000.00. The Whites are believed to be relatives.

  
  Henrietta M. Riley also gave $1000.00 to the Battle Creek, Michigan Company of Jehovah's Witnesses to purchase the Upton Avenue lot on which the Battle Creek Kingdom Hall was constructed.

  
  The residue, which was nearly all of the Estate of Henrietta M. Riley, was left to the WatchTower Society. This lawsuit also included the dispute as to which state had jurisdiction over Henrietta M. Riley's estate given that she had lived part time in the state of Virginia beginning in 1942 until her death in 1948. Outcome is unknown, although the MILLIONS OF DOLLARS received from the estate trust would seem to indicate that the WatchTower Society came out with most if not all of such.

  
  In 2019-20, the Henrietta M. Riley Trust distributed roughly $825,000.00 to the WatchTower Society, and currently has remaining assets of roughly $3.1 MILLION.

  
  Besides the gum-flapping about the investment choices of the Trustee, one realistic SCANDAL is the fact that Henrietta M. Riley was a PROMINENT SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST for most of her life. Henrietta May Zollinger had been born in Wisconsin in 1871. The Zollingers had become SDAs in 1874. George S. Zollinger, plaintiff in this civil lawsuit, remained a loyal SDA, and one of his grandsons, Robert "Bob" Zollinger became a prominent SDA leader. We have not been able to uncover WHY or WHEN Henrietta M. Riley parted company with the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Curiously, the funeral of Henrietta M. Riley was officiated by a local BAPTIST minister.

  
  Henrietta May Zollinger (1871-1948) met and married (1897) her husband, Dr. William Henry Riley (1862-1941), during the six years that he taught neurology at the University of Colorado - Boulder, and served as the Superintendent of the SDA's Colorado Sanitarium in Boulder. William Henry Riley, Jr., was born in Boulder in 1900. In 1902, the Rileys moved back to Battle Creek, Michigan, where they both worked at the famous SDA sanitarium for decades. Henrietta M. Riley graduated from the medical school at the Battle Creek Sanitarium, and worked as a physician's assistant there.

  
  

  Internationally renown Dr. William H. Riley was a director, faculty member, and physician at the facility. The Rileys knew and worked with Ellen G. White and the Kellogg brothers, and counted as patients dignitaries such as U.S. Presidents. Every knowledgable SDA member knew Dr. William Riley through his many books, booklets, and SDA publication articles.

  
  Unmarried only child, attorney William H. Riley, Jr., predeceased Henrietta M. Riley in 1942. Junior had graduated from Harvard Law School in 1927, and had later earned a LLD from Columbia University. Junior later worked for three years in Wash D.C. on the staff of the United States Solicitor General. Socializing at the homes of SCOTUS justices and at the White House, Junior purchased a 1000 acre historic farm in Virginia. In April 1942, Junior had undergone an unspecified serious operation at Battle Creek Sanitorium. After recuperating at his mother's BC residence for three months, Junior returned home to Virginia only to die two weeks later.
  Junior's estate actually appears to have been the source of his mother's greatest wealth.

  
  Between the two law schools and Wash D.C., Junior had gone to the oil fields of Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas, where Junior did unspecified legal work for an apparently short period of time during the Great Depression. "Someone" had to initiate and supervise this unknown enterprise, which apparently resulted in quick and possibly immoral, unethical, or even dishonest wealth for Junior. It is a real possibility that the WatchTower Society has for decades benefited from the misfortunes and/or even robberies of multiple Oklahomans, Texans, and Kansans decimated by the Great Depression and northern "carpetbaggers" seeking to take advantage of such.

  
  http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports/2057.html
  

  
  

  
  

  Grandpa!
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  JWs and the constitution of the United States

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  jws will not salute the flag.

  however they will support the us constitution which gives congress the right to establish the military and to declare and to make war.

  isn’t that tant amount to supporting the country going to war?.

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  Atlantis

  Free Bar-B-Que, baked beans with brown sugar and pork, tossed salad, and garlic bread, for Vanderhoven7! And we will throw in ice-cold German Beer just for good measure.

  I am going to get me one of those Double Burger, bacon, whatever the hell they call it, and some French fries and a Frosty.

  Hot coffee in the breakroom!

  Grandpa!
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  JWs and the constitution of the United States

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jws will not salute the flag.

  however they will support the us constitution which gives congress the right to establish the military and to declare and to make war.

  isn’t that tant amount to supporting the country going to war?.

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  This entire PDF file shows how buying just one postal stamp promotes all 4 branches of the Military.

  
  Every time a JW wrote a letter to preach to others and placed a postal stamp on their envelopes, they were helping to promote the United States government and all 4 branches of the Military.
  https://about.usps.com/publications/pub528.pdf
  
  
  Grandpa!
  
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  1936 "Riches"- How Many Versions Were There?

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  atlantis:.

  how many versions of the book called riches were there?.

  that was a project jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.. .

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  Atlantis

  slimboyfat:

  Good question! I need to check on that.

  Atlantis!
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  The Hubris of the Governing Body

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.

  they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.

  but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.

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  Credit goes to Cofty:

  
  

  Remember that every word that is published is first approved by members of the GB.

  
  

  Watchtower/1987/3/1/pg.14/par.16

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  1936 "Riches"- How Many Versions Were There?

  by Atlantis in

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  atlantis:.

  how many versions of the book called riches were there?.

  that was a project jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.. .

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  Ultimate Axiom:

  Yes, you are right concerning the version with the phonograph. There were also different colors of the book. The version with an orange color and a version which had more red in the cover.

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  1936 "Riches"- How Many Versions Were There?

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  atlantis:.

  how many versions of the book called riches were there?.

  that was a project jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.. .

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  Atlantis:

  
  

  How many versions of the book called Riches were there?

  
  

  That was a project Jerome was working on, so we will give him credit for this information.

  
  

  There were 3 versions of the 1936 book called Riches. The version with the Nun, the version without the Nun, and the version with the phonograph. The Watchtower Society instructed JW's to cut the page out of the book, which contained the picture of the Nun.

  
  

  Scroll down here and look under: Nun or none

  https://jeromehistory.blogspot.com/
  

  
  

  Yes, we have all 3 versions.

  
  

  Atlantis!