Thank you.
(I've been lurking for a year, just after we left. Now it's time to speak up!!!)
Nice to be around.
since we were indoctrinated that those leaving the organiztion had their lives turn into sh*t until they "returned to jehovah (the organization), how would you say things have turned out--so far?
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Thank you.
(I've been lurking for a year, just after we left. Now it's time to speak up!!!)
Nice to be around.
the wts is always telling us how they differ from mainstream christianity.
so my question is how are they the same?
more specifically in structure not doctrine, that is another topic.. examples:.
World travel, lavish living, meals, cars, planes, suits, and investments, real estate. What will they take with them when they die? Nada
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in a recent thread someone said that bagpuss was a good name but didn't know what it meant.. bagpuss was a character from a childrens programme in the 1970s and is becoming popular again now.
i chose this name as like bagpuss i am soft,cuddlyand loyal, but will get the claws out when needed.. why did you choose your 'alias' and what does it tell me about you?
I chose wized up, because after 33 yrs in the org, I did.
well, i have confirmed rumors that have gone around about there being no annual service report for the january 1st, 2005 issue.. .
it seems, for reasons unknown, that the watchtower has ended another decades long tradition.
in the second study article for the january 1st, 2005 watchtower, entitled, "trained to give a thorough witness," paragraph 24 reads: .
I used to be stricly honest in all that until "this is rediculous" set in. Then my time started when I got dressed in the a.m. for service. Otherwise I'd have dressed differently and taken less time. It stopped when I got home and changed. All a part of service, no?
well, i have confirmed rumors that have gone around about there being no annual service report for the january 1st, 2005 issue.. .
it seems, for reasons unknown, that the watchtower has ended another decades long tradition.
in the second study article for the january 1st, 2005 watchtower, entitled, "trained to give a thorough witness," paragraph 24 reads: .
That book is already in print. It's called Theocratic Warfare.
since we were indoctrinated that those leaving the organiztion had their lives turn into sh*t until they "returned to jehovah (the organization), how would you say things have turned out--so far?
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When we were in the org, it was always "just hubby and me". Now that we're out, it's "just hubby and me". That part never changed. On a personal level, I was the submissive, believe all, accept all, never run ahead, follow the rules type of person. I left the Catholic church for various reasons at 16 yrs old. Had spunk and a little mind of my own.( made my own choice against family will) Grew up abused, married an abuser, and guess where I ended up? In the org!!! I was then no more for 20 years. Spunk was a memory long gone. When I married my present hubby he gave me myself back. (13 yrs ago) He helped me think for myself, let me feel what I feel and insisted I not feel guilty for it. If not for him I believe know I'd be stuck in an assylum by now. I can dress for me, I can have an opinion, I can FEEL! not smother my feelings to keep in line with "current thinking", I'm free!
I don't know if I'm different, or am just finding myself again, but it's beautiful to be alive again. I missed that for 33 years in that place! We left together a year ago.
Surprised? OHHHHH YEAH!
well, i have confirmed rumors that have gone around about there being no annual service report for the january 1st, 2005 issue.. .
it seems, for reasons unknown, that the watchtower has ended another decades long tradition.
in the second study article for the january 1st, 2005 watchtower, entitled, "trained to give a thorough witness," paragraph 24 reads: .
1% growth, but how many left? 1% of what? I wonder if former methods of calculationing could be changing for appearances. OR...
Maybe they need more time to rewrite the article to include more paragraphs that say, "STAY OFF THE INTERNET, STUPID!" in different ways and languages. 'Cause it doesn't seem to be getting through. (smile)
the wts is always telling us how they differ from mainstream christianity.
so my question is how are they the same?
more specifically in structure not doctrine, that is another topic.. examples:.
Hypocracy, MONEY, Heirarchy, MONEY, pretend to have the answers and make it up when they don't know, MONEY,........
But what they EXCEL in that I've never seen the likes of is CONTROL. I now view it as a business, pretending to be a religion.
everyone that is in the process of leaving dreads the thought of having the elders approach them, call them, etc.
the fact is----just because they say they want to meet with you or just because 2 elders stop by to visit you----you don't have to deal with them at all.
simply tell them you won't meet with them, you won't talk to them.
They are going to do whatever they WANT to do. Normally they already know what they're "looking for". If you don't give it to them, they'll just make it up and do it to you anyway. I've seen that happen!
is there a "need" on your part to regain some form of spirtuality?
at this point in time, do you not want to hear anything about god, the bible, jesus, buddah, etc.?????
are you still "searching"?
Maybe for several months I did. Felt like getting off a roller coaster after being turned upside down over and over at high speed. Once my equilibrium came around, I am content to NOT have all the answers, and certain I made the right choice. I still read the bible (not NWT) and feel it's O.K. to reach my own conclusions. After all isn't that what a PERSONAL relationship with GOD is? I do not go to a church, however would never judge anyone who did. ( so proud of myself for that now! lol ) I spend a lot of time talking to my Heavenly Father and much more time in thanksgiving and appreciating all He's done for my family. It makes me feel alive and in accord with Him.
It took almost a year of heart wrenching accepting the truth about the "truth". That was hard. I'm sure I'll still discover "new light" for myself and I will know it will be when God enlightens me, at my own pace. So I have to say there is no void anymore. I'm walking "hand in hand" trusting Him to lead me, even when it's dark.