Thanks Gumby. Sounds like they are saying their books have wrong information in them and blames the publishers for not wanting to place them in the hands of people. That is one sorry organization. thanks again.
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need information
by Alwayshere inhope someone has the april 15, 1928 pg.126 watchtower they can print on here.
i know if "elsewhere" sees this he can.
thought maybe someone else might could help.
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need information
by Alwayshere inhope someone has the april 15, 1928 pg.126 watchtower they can print on here.
i know if "elsewhere" sees this he can.
thought maybe someone else might could help.
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Alwayshere
Yeah Gumby, The Watchtower made the statement about mistakes being in the Bible. I was wondering what they thought the mistakes were. I left the cult about 3 years ago.
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need information
by Alwayshere inhope someone has the april 15, 1928 pg.126 watchtower they can print on here.
i know if "elsewhere" sees this he can.
thought maybe someone else might could help.
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Alwayshere
Hope someone has the april 15, 1928 pg.126 watchtower they can print on here. I know if "Elsewhere" sees this he can. But not sure he is still around. Thought maybe someone else might could help. Thanks.
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so many questions, such little support
by had2bhime inim brand new here, just signed up today.
i have more questions than i can remember.
i was very excited to see that other witnesses have so many questions just as i do.
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Alwayshere
what is the closest religion to the truth other than JW?
No religion has the truth. At Luke 10: 25-28, Jesus tells us what we need to do to get life. If we love God and treate others like we want to be treated we will get life.We do not have to belong to any religion and slave for them. Watchtower Society is run by Apostates. Check their back ground and older publications and see how they have lied down through the years.
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I've been debating on whether or not to share this...but here goes
by findingmyway infor those of you who will be disgusted that i even attended the meeting, let alone allow my son to give his first public talk tonight, please, spare me the shouting messages.
i take full responsibility for what i experienced this evening.
yet, i feel the need to share this experience that has me enraged.
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Alwayshere
Findingmyway, I feel for you and agree with horriblelife"fade away" and also with elsewhere it is a "cult." I found out what that organization is way too late. Happy to be out but still have kids in it. Sometimes it seems hopeless but we have to live with our mistakes.
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1914How Is It Arrived At? (Daniel 4)
by AuldSoul inthe only chronology in the bible tying anything to 1914, according to jehovah's witnesses, is found in daniel 4.. 1914how is it arrived at?.
assumption #1: luke 21:24 is referring to nebuchadnezzars dream as related in daniel 4, and that indicates a future fulfillment of daniel 4.. assumption #2: the second fulfillment of nebuchadnezzars dream relates to something entirely different than the initial fulfillment.. assumption #3: the seven times of daniel 4 means seven years.. assumption #4: the seven years dont mean seven years, they mean seven years of years, where each day of each year equals one year.. assumption #5: the seven years of years dont mean seven years of years, they mean seven years of prophetic years, where each day equals 360 days.. assumption #6: jerusalem was destroyed in 607 b.c.e.. assumption #7: we should add (7 times x 360 years of 365 (or 366) days each) 2,520 years to 607 b.c.e.
to arrive at 1914 c.e.
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Alwayshere
Daniel's dream delt with Neb. and 7times was to pass over his rulership. Daniel says nothing about the tree representing God's Kingdom. Watchtower Society just throws that in but if you want to be a part of that cult you have to believe it.
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SIGN OF JONAH REVEALED BY: The King of "New Jerusalem" upon the earth
by EliJah into all that love g_d, jah, allah
i am a messenger of jah in our modern day with the task of leading the flock of jah under authority of jesus christ reigning from the heavens above.
the prophets of old were put into place as testimony of the authentication of the word of jah.
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Alwayshere
Elijah, you are as full of chit as the Watchtower Society!
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Why is what JW's believe in bad? what do they believe in?
by vaporize inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.com/20/90830/1.ashx
hi, im new to this site.
i use to believe in jw and i guess i always did but just lost faith and left it for a long time.
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Alwayshere
Vaporize, The Watchtower Society is 20 years off of all their Kings in the old Testement. Check History out on Jehoiakim and Zedekiah's reign. The Organization is built on the 1914 doctrine. Their own literature proves them wrong. You need to check their background and look at older publications and see how they have been lying ever since that religion was started by a man in the 1700's. Here are some examples of the past. Awake mag. October 8,1968 said "There have been those in the past who predicted an end to the world but nothing happened. Why? What was missing, missing was the evidence that God was backing them." The Watchtower Society predictted an end to the World dozens of times. Like 1914, 1918, 1925, and 1975 are a few. Also the Awake mag.May 22,1969 said, "If you are a young person, you need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system. Evidence of Bible prophecy indicates this system is due to end in a few years." The kingdom Ministry 1968 page 4 said, "In view of short period of time majority of people living today will be alive when Armageddon breaks and there are no resurrection hopes for those who are destroyed." Awake January22,1989 page 9-11 said "Catholic Church is blunt in it's disapproval of Homosexuality but the Church conducts a cover up for guilty Priests and even makes it possible for them to continue their sexual perversions. Church officials have failed to notify Authorities." Now notice what the Hypocrites say in Feb. 15,2002 page 4, "As directed in July 1, 1989 letter to all bodies of elders, you should immediately call the legal department for direction if you learn of a case of child abuse, never suggest to anyone that they should call the police or authorities." The Organization is run by Apostates but they label those who leave the organization Apostates. The people in there are [most of them] are sincere and believe God is using them. I did at one time but got out after a LOT of research.
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Am I too hung up on dates?
by coolhandluke ini had a two hour conversation with a friend last night.
frustrating.
it was like arguing with myself.
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Alwayshere
At one point he said "Where is there to go to?"
Tell him what Jesus said at Matthew 11:28-30. Also have him to read John 14:6. "I am the WAY' not the watchtower and "No one comes to the Father EXCEPT through me." At Luke 10: 25-28 Jesus tells us what to do if we want life. If we obey Jesus we live. God is not using any man made organization and the watchtower was started by man in the 1700's. The Watchtower has experienced complete failure of all it's predicitions including the dates 1914, 1925, 1942-45,1975. They make ridiculous statements such as this one that the Watchtower is "consistently dependable" and that is a lie. "Since 1879 it has been published regularly for thr benefit of sincere students of the Bible. Over that extended period of time the Watchtower has consistently proven itself dependable."[New world Translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures 1950 p. 793] Most JWs have never read the older books of the cult nor have access to them since copies have been removed from the libraries in their Kingdom Halls. Here is one in the Awake May 22, 1969 "If you are a young person, you need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system. Bible prophecy indicates this system is due to end in a few years." I could print a lot more of their BS but those who love that organization more than the truth will stay in. Coolhandluke, when a person believes an organization over the Bible you just can't help them. You don't have to belong to any organization to have a relationship with God. Organizations are for one person "MONEY."
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Watchtower and Philip Morris stocks...What documentation?
by hubert in.
well, the title says it all.. is there any documentation on this, and where can i aquire positive proof of this claim?.
thanks....hubert
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Alwayshere
hubert, go to search and type in The Watchtower & the cigarette company. Also if you don't know about the Watchtower's link to War Weapons, type in Watchtower's Investments in Warfare Technology. And if you don't know about their being associated with the UN, type in Jehovah's witnesses link to UN.