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  Any word yet on the Annual Meeting?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's just a week or two away and still no sign of the usual hype?

  very strange.... anyone heard anything about it?

  perhaps from those still in to some degree or from relatives/friends still in?.

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  slimboyfat

  If you watch last year’s broadcast carefully, there is an odd sort of dynamic between Tony Morris and the members of the Watchtower Society. Almost as if he was trying to appease them, while announcing further cuts.

  Is there possibly a move by Watchtower members to take over control of the Society? Does the structure allow for this? Strictly speaking the GB don’t have any legal power any more, so they may be vulnerable to a conspiracy, should it get off the ground. This assumes the presence in be movement of people with initiative, foresight and ethical independence: the very characteristics the GB attempt to drain from members and install loyalty.
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  Any word yet on the Annual Meeting?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's just a week or two away and still no sign of the usual hype?

  very strange.... anyone heard anything about it?

  perhaps from those still in to some degree or from relatives/friends still in?.

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  slimboyfat

  Morph and careful, the voices of “reason” on the forum?

  But seriously, consider what we know. That Watchtower faced a serious financial crisis in 2015 and embarked on a series of cuts to try to solve the problem. That having failed they have initiated a programme of selling KHs and other assets. And then comes the latest news of the biggest abuse compensation Watchtower has ever faced, with the prospect of more to follow. If all that doesn’t put them in a panic then what would? And if they were trying to give the appearance of running the show as normal you might expect them to make a big deal of the annual meeting. The fact they can’t even do that is revealing.
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  Any word yet on the Annual Meeting?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's just a week or two away and still no sign of the usual hype?

  very strange.... anyone heard anything about it?

  perhaps from those still in to some degree or from relatives/friends still in?.

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  slimboyfat

  Maybe there is some sort of crisis going on at the headquarters and things are falling apart quicker than we expected.
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  Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

  montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

  a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

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  slimboyfat

  $35 million here, $35 million there, pretty soon you’re talking real money.
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  Is attendance down in your location too?

  by StarryNight9 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

  memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

  my jw family has even mentioned it.

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  slimboyfat

  If I remember correctly (and I think I do) the percentage increase in congregations last year was the lowest on record. An increase of only 568 congregations, or 0.48%.

  I suspect there may actually be a worldwide decrease in congregations next year. Surely a very significant development if it comes to pass.
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  "New Kingdom Halls Being Built Around the World.........."

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that's what a very elderly jw sister said to me this afternoon, in response to all the sell-offs.

  i didn't contradict her - she's far too close to the end, but if it had been a younger jw i'd have suggested this:.

  "isn't it a pity that the society doesn't have a section on its web site where it could post photographs of all the new kingdom halls that are getting built every week/month?

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  slimboyfat

  I’ll believe it when I see it. If new KHs are built in Africa you can bet it will be paid 100% with funds from Africa. Warwick can’t spare a dime.

  Which African countries are actually growing at a rate that necessitates a lot of new KHs anyway? Angola and Congo and that’s about it. Even most African countries have only modest growth these days.
  
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  JWs using 'apostate' phraseology?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've mentioned before how a regular pioneer used the phrases "tight-pants tony" and "don't drink the kool-aid".

  well the other week, a different regular pioneer, and elderly one in fact, was talking about the simplified watchtower being discontinued and the normal one replacing it, and she said 'i guess they're just gonna dumb-down everything'.

  then too even the org itself used the words "fade" and "shun" in recent articles, words that were previously shied away from.. anybody here experienced something similar, a seeming pimi saying something that makes you wonder if they've been sneaking ex-jw 'spiritual food' on the side?.

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  slimboyfat

  Yes, a local JW used the phrase “bunker video” in a Watchtower answer. Pretty suspicious methinks. 😎
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  Is attendance down in your location too?

  by StarryNight9 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

  memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

  my jw family has even mentioned it.

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  slimboyfat

  Where is the evidence that lots of new KHs have actually been built in Africa?

  Remember it was only a few years ago they promised thousands of new KHs in the United States, right before they started closing KHs down.

  If any new KHs are built in Africa my hunch is it will only be in countries that disallow Watchtower to remove funds from the country as is the case in India.
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  Is attendance down in your location too?

  by StarryNight9 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

  memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

  my jw family has even mentioned it.

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  slimboyfat

  Will they publish figures next year or phase them out?

  Will the numbers be reliable even if they do publish them? With no monthly figures in the Kingdom Ministry there is no way to verify annual figures any more. And with the numbers turning south there is more incentive than ever for Watchtower to fudge the numbers.

  But the one statistic we should be able to verify is the number of congregations in each country. This may take some time but I think it is a figure worth compiling independently of Watchtower statistics. Because not only can it be indepdently verified, but number of congregations is one of the best measures of overall vitality, growth or decline of the organisation.

  The number of congregations has already declined significantly in Japan and Germany, and other countries, including even the United States, look set to follow that trend.
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  More on South Africa

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://killingfieldsmovie.com/.

  write to your mp help these people to leave to come to safety..

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  slimboyfat

  I wouldn’t trust a thing the woman said. If there’s anything worth reading or watching then I’ll wait until someone who isn’t pathologically malevolent and unreliable says it.