Posts by slimboyfat

New Awake! magazine is about homelessness. Has the Society ever promoted preaching to homeless people? Has it ever even mentioned it? I rack my memory to try to think of them ever mentioning preaching to homeless people.

Homeless people might make bad converts I suppose:

1. No money to contribute.

2. Maybe only interested because they might get financial/material help from the congregation.

3. Gives a bad impression if tramps are seen going to Kingdom Hall.

4. Homeless people need to get their lives together first anyway before they are good enough to get the truth.

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IT'S OFFICIAL!!! Fewer wars and less deadly

by steve2 in

jw
friends

here's a thought-provoking news report that you won't see quoted any time soon in any watchtower publication:

(source: the age, an australian newspaper, re-published in the dominion-post, wellington, new zealand.

october 19 2005):

slimboyfat

The Witnesses already have an aswer for this kind of media report:

It's called "Peace and Security"... more wars or peace, either way they win.

In fact, talk about peace means that the end is actually closer, not farther away, in the Witness way of seeing things.

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The WTBTS published a criticism on one of its articles. Do you remember?

by Gill in

i remember, possible 15 to 20 years ago an actual challenge to the wtbts from a reader published in the watchtower, i believe.

but it did stick in my mind.

it was on the subject of the nazi persecution of jews and the jws.

slimboyfat

By giving up the right to make our own decisions and judgements, we also give over the responsibility for those determinations to the "organisation": the perpetual safety of "mother knows best".

I think you would enjoy Andrew Holden's discussion of how Jehovah's Witnesses, in a world of endless offers, options and choices, have cornered a niche religious market consisting of individuals with a strong preference for being provided with a complete system of definitive "answers" over and against having to make one's own way through the bewildering array of paths, viewpoints and alternatives offered by the modern world. Holden ties in this analysis of Jehovah's Witnesses with a famous philosophical work by Erich Fromm called "The Fear of Freadom". I highly recommend his book.

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The WTBTS published a criticism on one of its articles. Do you remember?

by Gill in

i remember, possible 15 to 20 years ago an actual challenge to the wtbts from a reader published in the watchtower, i believe.

but it did stick in my mind.

it was on the subject of the nazi persecution of jews and the jws.

slimboyfat

Gill,

I remember that article.

I also remember thinking how I must have had a "wrong attitude" to initially see merit in the complaint.

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Watch Tower sues Quotes for $100,000 plus plus plus...

by Quotes in

court file no.

superior court of justice.

watchtower bible and tract society of .

slimboyfat

Someone contact The Guardian writer who write the story about the UN thing about this.

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Interesting statistic about JWs in this week's Newsweek

by lucky in

jw
friends

i just got this week's newsweek in the mail.

the cover story is "spirituality in america".

page 54 has a table listing change in religious self-identification between 1990 and 2001. the four bottom religions, with negative percentages, are jehovah's witnesses (-4%), jewish, rastafarian, and protestant.

slimboyfat

Proof that American Witnesses are disproportionately black!

Vindicated!

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German Jehovah's Witness Scholar Defends 'Intelligent Design'

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

here is the link:.

http://www.weloennig.de/dynamicgenomes.html.

maybe some here are more up to date than me on debate about "id".

slimboyfat

bttt

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German Jehovah's Witness Scholar Defends 'Intelligent Design'

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

here is the link:.

http://www.weloennig.de/dynamicgenomes.html.

maybe some here are more up to date than me on debate about "id".

slimboyfat

Here is the link:

http://www.weloennig.de/DynamicGenomes.html

What do you think?

Maybe some here are more up to date than me on debate about "ID". But more interesting is the angle of a 'brother' attempting to engage in such scholarly debate. In addition to being a scientist, the author is also reputedly an elder in Germany.

Anyone read Hal Flemings' book by the way? Any good?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0761826475/qid%3D1124281994/202-2894128-8771829

He is a brother as well, by the way...

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Apostates - blood on their hands?

by slimboyfat in

jw
friends

don't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?

haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?

if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).

slimboyfat

I am truly sorry for your loss. Some people really do believe that taking blood is wrong, and it is not for me to say they are not allowed to take that view.

The point I am making is that extremists respond to strong opposition by becoming more extreme. The more apostates push the governing body into a corner, the more they will dig their heels in. This is obvious, but apostates don't seem to realise they are sometimes their own worst enemy. That is all I am saying, and I am really sorry if my manner of saying it has offended you. I cannot put myself in your position.