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  How far will they go?

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  imagine: you have inside information that could destroy the watchtower corporations.. how far would they go to protect the assets?.

  would they kill?

  no strange question in blackwater etc days.. g..

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  slimboyfat

  Just because an organisation has survived problems in the past doesn’t mean it will survive problems in the future. That’s illogical. It’s like saying that because I survived measles as a child, therefore I won’t die of another illness tomorrow. It just doesn’t follow.

  Where history is relevant is looking for trends and comparisons. On this front JWs resemble other organisations that have collapsed and many longstanding trends indicate they are in deep trouble. The fact that they may have survived this or other crisis or scandal decades ago is irrelevant to the current situation.
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  How far will they go?

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  imagine: you have inside information that could destroy the watchtower corporations.. how far would they go to protect the assets?.

  would they kill?

  no strange question in blackwater etc days.. g..

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  slimboyfat

  Morph why do you have it as an article of faith that nothing can bring the organisation down? Surely it’s as fallible as any organisation and collapse is possible. You seem as sure about the survival of Watchtower as any true believer!

  In reality Watchtower is particularly vulnerable for many reasons, just a few of which: it relied on media sales for income which is now gone; their own belief in God’s blessing and Armageddon result in very poor strategic, financial and doctrinal decisions; they keep adherents uneducated and socially immobile and thus in no position to donate; they are only growing in poor countries, which are a net loss to organisation funds, and on and on.

  If any religion is vulnerable to collapse it is Wa5chtower, yet you say it can’t happen. Why can’t it happen?
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  What happned to the Quick Builds

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the qbs were huge in the 80s and 90s, now i hear nothing.

  have they stopped?.

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  slimboyfat

  Has this already been mentioned? I was thinking of making a thread about it.
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  What happned to the Quick Builds

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the qbs were huge in the 80s and 90s, now i hear nothing.

  have they stopped?.

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  slimboyfat

  Due to ongoing organisational collapse.
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  Commentary on the Letter of James

  by lepermessiah in

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  2. friends

  zoiks inspired this thread when he mentioned this book elsewhere.. i have read other threads on this forum about it, but i always enjoy the fresh insight on here.. commentary on the letter of james was always my favorite book from wtbs, partly because i love the book of james, but also because it was one of the books that dealt with more practical christian living than constant wt doctrine.. i mentioned to a number of people that i loved that book, and got a few comments of "well, you know that book was written by an apostate.".

  it didnt take me long to do a little math - that book came out i believe in 1979/1980, right around the time of the great purge.

  how could someone write such an excellent book and then be branded an apostate just a few months later???.

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  slimboyfat

  I was surprised some time time ago to discover that Raymond Franz wrote the old Family Life book. Is that true? Considering it has some of the more infamous statements on sexuality and gender relations.
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  Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.

  feel free to poke holes.

  i have many doubts about this myself.

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  slimboyfat

  Actually there are huge lessons JWs could learn from Mormons, Adventists and others that they have not learnt. Which makes me suspect they are not actively engaged with reflecting on such comparisons with a view to strategy.

  Mormons and Adventists have much more effective ways of encouraging and soliciting funds and they are much more savvy in their public relations and engagement with state agencies.

  JWs actually appear quite naïve in how they approach “strategy” if you can even call it that. Most of the leadership apparently do genuinely believe they are specially called by Jehovah and that Armageddon will come soon. This has inevitable consequences in terms of formulating effective strategy across the board: whether that be weird stop-gap doctrinal innovations such as the “overlapping generation”; complacent and ineffective responses to scandals such as the Australian Royal Commision; or financial naïveté resulting in financial crisis since 2015.
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  Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.

  feel free to poke holes.

  i have many doubts about this myself.

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  slimboyfat

  They want to ask a refund whoever supplied them overlapping generations.
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  Grand and Lesser Apostate Delusions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is it makes some of those wacky apostates appear from time to time claiming russell and the witnesses were/are all part of some great freemason/illuminati plot?

  i'll tell you what it is, and it may explain a few other things for you too!

  people who come up with these theories demonstrate a basic psychological insecurity stemming from their involvement and subsequent disentanglement from the witnesses.

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  slimboyfat

  The OP is clearly an idiot, but some of the responses are well worth reading, especially AlanF, Kid-A, LittleToe, Narkissos and so on.
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  Posters You Miss

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.

  i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.

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  slimboyfat

  JCanon, not only gone, but his threads gone too, sadly, in an act of archival vandalism.
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  Active witnesses? Please help?

  by Ahava in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,i'm lost and a little sad.

  i actually like the jw faith.

  some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.

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  slimboyfat

  Listened to interesting presentation the other day on human origins by John Walton, Seventh Day Adventist preacher, and professor of chemistry at St Andrews University.

  http://www.crieffadventist.org.uk/mp3/2009/JohnWalton/091111_JohnWalton_ForbiddenScience32.mp3