I guess I could pass for a panpsychist Unitarian Universalist Christian with Jehovah’s Witness, poststructuralist and deconstructive tendencies, throw in pacifist and sovereigntist leanings, sometimes misunderstood, I guess, I try my best.
slimboyfat
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Do you still want to be identified as a Christian?
by eyeuse2badub inmost americans want some form of religious identity - even atheists are creating churches.
by j. warner wallace | fox news.
the number of self-proclaimed christians is shrinking in america.. i’ve been collecting data on this trend for over 10 years, and the surveys reveal an important truth: fewer people claim a christian affiliation than ever before, and those who claim no religious affiliation are the fastest growing group in america.. but while fewer people may belong to christian churches or communities, americans will likely retain some form of religious identity – especially if what’s happening in europe is an indicator of things to come.. a new pew forum survey conducted in western europe reveals that christianity is waning there even faster than it is in the united states.
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The Forgery of an Antique God
by TerryWalstrom inin the world of antiquities, especially that of bronze art, specifically heads, would you be surprised or alarmed to discover that experts estimate about half of all the art sold at auction and donated to museums around the world.... consists of forgeries?while you're digesting the news of corrupt practice, let me raise a rather vexatious collateral issue for your consideration:.
auction houses keep silent about this fraud.in fact, it has been asserted by investigators specializing in such fraud, it is largely the auction houses submitting these works at auction under fake identities so they cannot be directly held liable for illicit transactions.
proving they've knowingly done so is too problematic to pass muster.one expert who exposed such a fraud was sued by the auction house and forced toward financial settlement out of court under the libel laws.now why mention all the above in the first place?for one reason only, the same thing occurs in the religious transactions of jehovah's witnesses.the auction house (watchtower corporation) represents its salvific theology as authentic and transacts with potential converts so's they pay for such art (ful fraud) by giving their lives, honor, and sacred service in exchange.when flaws are found, instead of owning up to the illicit enterprise, they seek legal redress or prosecute the accuser through coercive threats of disfellowship.now here is another insidious parallel.
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slimboyfat
You know, the technology singularitarian types, Venus project and so on.
Russell was a man of vision. Have you ever watched the photodrama of creation in full? It is truly remarkable. Russell accepted evolution. It was Darwinism he was against. No talking snake etc.
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The Forgery of an Antique God
by TerryWalstrom inin the world of antiquities, especially that of bronze art, specifically heads, would you be surprised or alarmed to discover that experts estimate about half of all the art sold at auction and donated to museums around the world.... consists of forgeries?while you're digesting the news of corrupt practice, let me raise a rather vexatious collateral issue for your consideration:.
auction houses keep silent about this fraud.in fact, it has been asserted by investigators specializing in such fraud, it is largely the auction houses submitting these works at auction under fake identities so they cannot be directly held liable for illicit transactions.
proving they've knowingly done so is too problematic to pass muster.one expert who exposed such a fraud was sued by the auction house and forced toward financial settlement out of court under the libel laws.now why mention all the above in the first place?for one reason only, the same thing occurs in the religious transactions of jehovah's witnesses.the auction house (watchtower corporation) represents its salvific theology as authentic and transacts with potential converts so's they pay for such art (ful fraud) by giving their lives, honor, and sacred service in exchange.when flaws are found, instead of owning up to the illicit enterprise, they seek legal redress or prosecute the accuser through coercive threats of disfellowship.now here is another insidious parallel.
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slimboyfat
Actually, Russell taught that all humans can be saved and that scientific progress is evidence that humans are heading toward paradise. Even some atheists now believe the earth will be made a paradise. This belief in the future can be combined with living the best possible life now, in fact it requires it to prepare for the world to come. I hope JWs reform to get back to their roots.
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The Forgery of an Antique God
by TerryWalstrom inin the world of antiquities, especially that of bronze art, specifically heads, would you be surprised or alarmed to discover that experts estimate about half of all the art sold at auction and donated to museums around the world.... consists of forgeries?while you're digesting the news of corrupt practice, let me raise a rather vexatious collateral issue for your consideration:.
auction houses keep silent about this fraud.in fact, it has been asserted by investigators specializing in such fraud, it is largely the auction houses submitting these works at auction under fake identities so they cannot be directly held liable for illicit transactions.
proving they've knowingly done so is too problematic to pass muster.one expert who exposed such a fraud was sued by the auction house and forced toward financial settlement out of court under the libel laws.now why mention all the above in the first place?for one reason only, the same thing occurs in the religious transactions of jehovah's witnesses.the auction house (watchtower corporation) represents its salvific theology as authentic and transacts with potential converts so's they pay for such art (ful fraud) by giving their lives, honor, and sacred service in exchange.when flaws are found, instead of owning up to the illicit enterprise, they seek legal redress or prosecute the accuser through coercive threats of disfellowship.now here is another insidious parallel.
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slimboyfat
Do you deny that the earth can be a paradise in the future? Or that God can do this if he wants? He was all people to be saved. -
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The Forgery of an Antique God
by TerryWalstrom inin the world of antiquities, especially that of bronze art, specifically heads, would you be surprised or alarmed to discover that experts estimate about half of all the art sold at auction and donated to museums around the world.... consists of forgeries?while you're digesting the news of corrupt practice, let me raise a rather vexatious collateral issue for your consideration:.
auction houses keep silent about this fraud.in fact, it has been asserted by investigators specializing in such fraud, it is largely the auction houses submitting these works at auction under fake identities so they cannot be directly held liable for illicit transactions.
proving they've knowingly done so is too problematic to pass muster.one expert who exposed such a fraud was sued by the auction house and forced toward financial settlement out of court under the libel laws.now why mention all the above in the first place?for one reason only, the same thing occurs in the religious transactions of jehovah's witnesses.the auction house (watchtower corporation) represents its salvific theology as authentic and transacts with potential converts so's they pay for such art (ful fraud) by giving their lives, honor, and sacred service in exchange.when flaws are found, instead of owning up to the illicit enterprise, they seek legal redress or prosecute the accuser through coercive threats of disfellowship.now here is another insidious parallel.
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slimboyfat
Except JWs have promoted truths from the Bible: future paradise, don’t fight in wars, the importance of Jehovah’s name, no hellfire or immortal soul. All these things are genuine truths that set people free from fear and bad consequences.
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How the Watchtower and Big Tobacco conspired to propaganda techniques to survive the exposure of their dangers
by TerryWalstrom inthe tobacco industry held in thrall millions of addicted smokers for decades with an almost endless litany of false claims reinforced by propaganda and bad science.it is informative and eye-opening to examine this brilliant but insidious strategy.1.
exploiting controversy the tobacco team focused on "conflicts of interest" to create a distraction and exploit mistrust so nicotine addicts own confirmation bias would work in their favor.
this strategy of producing scientific uncertainty undercut public health efforts and regulatory interventions designed to reduce the harms of smoking.the watchtower easily did the same thing by exploiting the confusing doctrine of the trinity and pointing to the corrupt history of the catholic church.
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slimboyfat
Good thread Terry.
And interesting about Morris, averagejoe. If Morris is personally wealthy it puts an interesting complexion on his 2017 annual meeting speech about WT cutbacks. He basically suggested that magazines and yearbooks were being cut because JWs were not paying enough to keep them going. Would Morris be in a position to dip into his own pocket for the organisation if he wished? Would the recent lack of Watchtower success be offputting for a man who grew up aware of family success? He did come across as almost contemptuous of the situation, either Watchtower failure, or JW lack of contributions.
Plus I wonder if the forum has ever explored JW tobacco connections in Southern Africa. Apparently JWs were big tobacco growers in the region at one time.
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Do you think that race is a factor in education in the U.S.
by recovering ini was wondering if racial bias is a factor in u.s. education?.
would you be concerned if it was?
why would you be concerned?.
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slimboyfat
I don’t even understand the question. A factor in education in terms of what? Whether people get any? How good the education Is? How well the students do?
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New JW Full Length Expose' Movie Coming to Cinema Entitled…"APOSTASY!"
by MADMARY innew expose' jw film coming the 27th of july, 2018. .
see link below:.
apostasy:exclusive trailer for jehovah's witness drama being hailed as best british film in years.
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slimboyfat
Trailer looks good. Only one thing I would criticise. The young elder says, “she likes to voice her own opinions too much”. Although the sentiment is correct, I don’t think JWs usually verbalise the criticism that way, because it’s so obviously controlling. It sounds more like an outsider”s critique of the JW position, than an insider’s free expression. How would a JW express it? Maybe they would say something like, “she is critical of Jehovah’s organisation/faithful slave” or “promoting apostate ideas”. Watchtowers have criticised “independent thinking”, and some JWs pick up and use that language, but I get the feeling that many JWs shy away from condemning thinking and individuality in terms as stark as those. Probably because it’s self-consciously just a bit stupid to condemn thinking and individuality, because if you’ve got neither then why bother saying anything at all?
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New JW Full Length Expose' Movie Coming to Cinema Entitled…"APOSTASY!"
by MADMARY innew expose' jw film coming the 27th of july, 2018. .
see link below:.
apostasy:exclusive trailer for jehovah's witness drama being hailed as best british film in years.
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slimboyfat
jws
1. They changed the announcement so all DFing and DA are the same “this person is no longer one of JWs”.
2. The announcement is made during the service meeting, don’t know why they would be holding Watchtowers.
3. Elders are normally transferred with their status intact these days, so they do arrive at new congregations as elders.
4. Unmarried elders are common, especially if they’ve been through the training school.
5. If he’s an elder then why not be considered for CO? They need younger COs badly.
6. I have been to two JW funerals for suicides. It’s up to the elder if he wants to take it.
7. A lot of JW funerals these days seem more focussed on the person. I think it’s just another indication that Watchtower control is slipping and JWs are asserting their individuality.
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This Week CLM Meeting
by zophar inso, this week on the clm there was an interesting comment at our kh.. under the "apply yourself to the field ministry" portion this week, there was the bible study assignment based on the publication: who are doing jehovah’s will today?
published in 2016. the material was from lesson 28 "what can be found on our website?
there is a footnote at the bottom that reads: .
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slimboyfat
I don’t know. Some JWs believe it so strongly that they can come across as sceptical. In their mind they are like, “I am so strong, I won’t be affected by apostates, bring it on.”