Posts by slimboyfat

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Has anyone ever been to an assembly with NO baptisms

by Nikki collins in

just curious if anyone has ever been to an assembly with zero baptisms.

if not, i see that happening soon and cant wait for that awkward day!.

slimboyfat

I was at one a few years ago. The assigned speaker still had to give the talk. I thought they could have cut everyone some slack and broke for lunch early.

JWs lack basic common sense. It comes from years of practising obedience without thinking for yourself. Then again, they probably receive instructions from Watchtower to carry on in these circumstances. Watchtower doesn’t like to leave anything to chance, especially when there is a danger local people might make independent decisions that suit their own needs. That sort of madness needs to get stamped out quick sharp.

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Disfellowshipped

by lriddle80 in

jw
friends

my judicial committee was set for monday.

the message says to call back asap and that he loves me, but he said it like "i love ya, girl" he never has said that to me like that.

so, i call back and he says i have been a hard person to get a hold of and that confused me because i had not received any calls from him.

slimboyfat

Far be it from me to defend scripture, but my understanding is that the NT teaches that Jesus didn’t come to judge when he came to earth to die, but that he would return in the future to judge the living and the dead.

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Love never fails,, Interesting UK video

by Lets Think in

https://youtu.be/shdoreaahmq.

slimboyfat

This is a very interesting video.

I wonder, where is the information that he is still a JW? Because his comment along the lines “they call themselves brothers and sisters” indicates to me he may no longer consider himself a JW. Although confusingly, he also says he’s a minister, presumably meaning a JW publisher. I think his status is unclear from this video alone. Is there more information to go on?

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Disfellowshipped

by lriddle80 in

jw
friends

my judicial committee was set for monday.

the message says to call back asap and that he loves me, but he said it like "i love ya, girl" he never has said that to me like that.

so, i call back and he says i have been a hard person to get a hold of and that confused me because i had not received any calls from him.

slimboyfat

Anna Marina is it really necessary to use this posters traumatic experience and plea for understanding to promote your personal ideology?

Iriddle80 explained her experience in terms of her Christian faith and Anna Marina responded by agreeing with Iriddle80’s use of scripture.

It is you who is insisting and promoting your ideology by demanding others not explain their experiences with reference to their faith, stating it is as a “traumatic experience” that many have been through. The demand to leave faith out of it is an ideological position. What’s more, Anna Maria’s perspective is in line with the original poster, and it is you who are using the thread to promote your alternative secular perspective.

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Why Aren`t The G.B Members Representive Of All Nations ? and not just America ?

by smiddy3 in

are all of the governing .body .members american citizens ?

shouldn`t they at least represent a greater proportion of nations in light of jesus being a saviour of all the world ?.

god loved the world of mankind right ?

slimboyfat

Thanks George, that’s interesting. It would be interesting to find out more about Leo Greenlees’ background.

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Why Aren`t The G.B Members Representive Of All Nations ? and not just America ?

by smiddy3 in

are all of the governing .body .members american citizens ?

shouldn`t they at least represent a greater proportion of nations in light of jesus being a saviour of all the world ?.

god loved the world of mankind right ?

slimboyfat

Not all caucasian because of Samuel Herd, of course. Plus there is a pretty funny chapter in Firpo Carr’s book arguing that William Jackson was black even though he looked white.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/222072/background-william-k-jackson

What's pretty amazing is the lack of Hispanic GB members, despite large numbers of Hispanic JWs in the US. I wonder if there are Hispanic members of the US branch committee.

A lot of it may simply be down to the fact that white western JWs make up the majority of memorial partakers that the GB are still selected from.

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Why Aren`t The G.B Members Representive Of All Nations ? and not just America ?

by smiddy3 in

are all of the governing .body .members american citizens ?

shouldn`t they at least represent a greater proportion of nations in light of jesus being a saviour of all the world ?.

god loved the world of mankind right ?

slimboyfat

Well from a historical theological perspective, Jehovah used mainly Jewish leaders throughout the OT and NT, and Romans 9 says that Jehovah chooses whoever he wishes to fulfil his purpose. Even Acts 10 that extends God’s message to all ethnicities, is followed by chapter 15 where Jews are still in leadership roles. So it’s not necessarily wrong from a biblical perspective that God should use people from one culture for leadership. It’s objectionable from a liberal non-biblical perspective. Not only does the GB fail to be democratic or representative of the people they lead, but their teaching makes a virtue of this fact. In particular their interpretation of the statue of Daniel deplores the weakness of democracy as a system of government because it is responsive the views of ordinary people. The GB believe they comprise a theocracy and are accountable to Jehovah alone, not to a worldwide membership with diverse backgrounds and perspectives.

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China Crisis | 18 members of Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and indicted

by jwleaks in

on april 15, 2019, total of 18 jehovah's witnesses in china were arrested and charged with indictable offences relating to, "using an evil religion organization" to "incite the obstruction of law enforcement," and one charge relating to, "obstructing law enforcement by organizing and using an evil religious organization.".

since the arrests, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have remained silent on the plight of these 18 jehovah's witnesses in china.. link to translation of indictment:.

https://jwleaks.org/2019/07/09/china-crisis-for-jehovahs-witnesses-18-members-indicted/.

slimboyfat

Yes it’s not consistent. I can only imagine they reckon they have started reporting on Russia, so they will continue. Whereas there’s a longstanding policy of not commenting on China, or other countries including many in the Middle East.

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Why Aren`t The G.B Members Representive Of All Nations ? and not just America ?

by smiddy3 in

are all of the governing .body .members american citizens ?

shouldn`t they at least represent a greater proportion of nations in light of jesus being a saviour of all the world ?.

god loved the world of mankind right ?

slimboyfat

Leo Greenlees was Scottish? I thought he was Canadian. You may be confusing him with a different Greenlees family.

I didn’t realise Karl Klein was born in Germany

I think Ewart Chitty was English

Martin Poetzinger was German

Wasn't Lloyd Barry Australian? No google says born in New Zealand

Did George Gangas grow up in Greece? His bio says born in the Ottoman Empire, he was that old.

John Barr was Scottish, as mentioned

Geoffrey Jackson is Australian

Gerrit Loesch was born in Austria

And Stephen Lett, a badly kept secret, is from the planet Neptune

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China Crisis | 18 members of Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and indicted

by jwleaks in

on april 15, 2019, total of 18 jehovah's witnesses in china were arrested and charged with indictable offences relating to, "using an evil religion organization" to "incite the obstruction of law enforcement," and one charge relating to, "obstructing law enforcement by organizing and using an evil religious organization.".

since the arrests, the governing body of jehovah's witnesses have remained silent on the plight of these 18 jehovah's witnesses in china.. link to translation of indictment:.

https://jwleaks.org/2019/07/09/china-crisis-for-jehovahs-witnesses-18-members-indicted/.

slimboyfat

Watchtower doesn't report on activity in banned countries in their annual reports, or in the text of the old yearbooks, as I recall. Russia was a different situation because it started out as a campaign to retain legal recognition where they had an established presence. So I don’t know if Watchtower will make any statements about the developments in China or go into any detail in their news releases. It’s not necessarily about size either, because there was a news blackout on Cuba for decades, yet when Cuba emerged from under ban they had around 100,000 JWs in that country.