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  "Perfect Angels"? A Subtle Shift in Watchtower Doctrine — And Why It Matters

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "perfect angels"?

  a subtle shift in watchtower doctrine — and why it matters.

  quoted paragraph from the watchtower september 2025, study article 38, paragraph 12:.

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  raymond frantz, take the opportunity to learn from feedback, especially when it’s from people mean well. There are few things more valuable …
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  Applying the facial hair change in New Order portrayals

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a hard time watching the org's vids and reading the publications.

  however, that's not the case with others here.

  hence this post.

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  A thought occurred to me - if patriarchs are depicted with trim beards in the new system instead of traditional epic beards, then how would we even know they are even meant to be patriarchs? I guess their dress would be a clue. But then why wouldn’t their dress be modified too? Bottom line is these depictions are meant to give impressions they are not intended to be a completely accurate portrayal of what a documentary photographer would find in the new system. The long beards are useful as a shorthand signifier of an OT resurrected person. For that reason alone they’ll probably stay.
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  "Perfect Angels"? A Subtle Shift in Watchtower Doctrine — And Why It Matters

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "perfect angels"?

  a subtle shift in watchtower doctrine — and why it matters.

  quoted paragraph from the watchtower september 2025, study article 38, paragraph 12:.

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  Watchtower is so busy with stuff that is actually going on in recent years, from court cases, to beards, to shunning/not shunning, to last minute salvation at Armageddon, to sisters wearing trousers, to a GB member getting removed, to not counting time. So many things have been going on that are worth scrutinising, why on earth invent an imaginary change to talk about?
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  "Perfect Angels"? A Subtle Shift in Watchtower Doctrine — And Why It Matters

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "perfect angels"?

  a subtle shift in watchtower doctrine — and why it matters.

  quoted paragraph from the watchtower september 2025, study article 38, paragraph 12:.

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  It just means the angels who didn’t disobey. In JW understanding “perfect” means sinless. There is nothing new here.
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  Trump: "Too many holidays"

  by SydBarrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  “too many non-working holidays in america.

  it is costing our country $billions of dollars to keep all of these businesses closed,” the president wrote in a truth social post..

  “the workers don’t want it either,” he added.

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  Too right, let’s end weekends and reintroduce child labour too. Some people say children shouldn’t be made to work? Let the market decide! Don’t like your working conditions? Then why not start your own business and make your own rules, loser.
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  Predictions for the next decade?

  by jehovaxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.

  then some huge huge changes.

  for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.

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  Predictions like that seem to assume those in leadership don’t really believe in the religion and only really care about money. I can’t see any evidence for that. Most of the leaders do seem to believe in the religion. They care about money too, of course, because if they run out of it that will harm the organisation. But saying they want money at the expense of the organisation doesn’t make much sense.
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  Few JW leader have children

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s been discussed before that few jw leaders, past and present, have had children.

  this is in contrast with other groups, such as the mormons, whose leaders have had a lot of children.

  i wonder if this has impacted jw growth.

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  Ah, how did I miss that!

  I found similar on Reddit. Two of those six children were step children, apparently.

  Guy Pierce might be more interesting than the surviving GB members. He had two children with his first wife, then they divorced in early 1976. Coincidence, right after the 1975 debacle? He the married his second wife Penny, who also had two children. Then they had two children together. His widow Penny was interviewed at last year's convention. The unusual thing about Guy is that he has grandchildren. One of them shared some interesting information on Cedars' blog, indicating he was a pretty normal grandpa. But he does look a bit like Herman Munster to me.

  He looked like Grampa Munster (uncanny!) not Herman Munster.

  Does anybody have more information on any of the other GB members, even if just to rule out that they had children?
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  After watching this. All I can say is be thankful you were a JW.

  by joe134cd in

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  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/tmcl4gizjii?si=xoapw8c1nug_ffuz.

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  The video, audio, and even the script appear to be AI generated. Can it be trusted to be accurate?

  It’s probably accurate in the main points but I wouldn’t trust AI on any details without double checking.
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  Applying the facial hair change in New Order portrayals

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a hard time watching the org's vids and reading the publications.

  however, that's not the case with others here.

  hence this post.

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  When was the announcement on beards made?

  From what I can find it was December 2023.

  So the image in the January 2024 Watchtower is in a publication that is dated after the announcement, but it would have been released before the announcement, and probably produced by the artist some time before that.

  But I love the idea of a bearded patriarch being resurrected to Norway for light refreshments and a Bible Study on a balcony overlooking a fjord. 🥖 🥤 🏔️
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  Few JW leader have children

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s been discussed before that few jw leaders, past and present, have had children.

  this is in contrast with other groups, such as the mormons, whose leaders have had a lot of children.

  i wonder if this has impacted jw growth.

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  It says Schroeder had no children, which is false.

  It says Geoffrey Jackson is “believed to be married”. I think it is public information that he has been married twice and his first wife died.

  Why does it say Samuel Herd “was married before full time service”? He remained married.

  It is wrong when it says that the trend has been toward celibacy since Knorr. If anything the opposite. Most GB members since Knorr have been married.

  It says most GB members “remained unmarried”. This is false, most GB members have been married.

  I don’t think it’s correct that Rutherford had his son before joining the Bible Students.

  I am pretty sure it is wrong that Morris’s sons have been disfellowshipped. Quite the opposite, the gossip has been that they remain good JWs in the face of their father’s removal.

  Why does it say of Rutherford’s son: “Malcolm Cammerer, before marriage”? Does it think he changed name after marriage? Or he was born before his parents married? Or what?

  It doesn’t mention that Guy Pierce had children.

  Some of the other stated facts may also be false but I am not in a position to say for sure because of the gaps mentioned above.

  All in all pretty poor. Do not rely on ChatGPT!