Well, I'm not a lawyer. But it seems to me that you would eventually have to end up in court and argue your situation to get your kids back. I would judge that you made a good decision to have someone else care for them while you were strung out. If you've cleaned up your life, you should be able to demonstrate that you are now a responsible and that you can provide the right care for them. If some significant time has gone by, you may want to ask the kids if they want to live with you, just to get a feel for the situation. You can also assess how difficult the family member with control can make things for you. But don't say anything until you're ready to make several moves ahead of the other person.
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41hello I recently got away from the so called "truth" looking for people to talk to
by LuLu4YouYou inhello my name is louis.
i have seperated myself from the jws and am looking for people to talk to.
i dont have many people in my life who will even speak to me anymore or even acknowledge that i exist.
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Dang: 9 years
by FlyingHighNow ini just realized this is my 9th jwd/jwn anniversary.
what a long strange trip it's been.
i am very grateful to simon and ang for providing this site.
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Etude
Congratulations! After having been away for a while, I came back only to find that I signed up a little over 10 years ago. And Armageddon hasn't come yet!
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vote poster Raypublisher ; WT EXPOSED OF THE MONTH
by JunkYardDog inthis guy did a hell of a job recording his jc.
and slamming the elder in part 4 if his series of youtube's known as jwstruggles.
i take my hat off to this guy.
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Can I vote twice or more? "Balths ath big ath churchbelths!"
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hello I recently got away from the so called "truth" looking for people to talk to
by LuLu4YouYou inhello my name is louis.
i have seperated myself from the jws and am looking for people to talk to.
i dont have many people in my life who will even speak to me anymore or even acknowledge that i exist.
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Etude
Louis, that's a major saga you just posted. Welcome to this site and know that many people here have also had major upheavals in their lives. You can take comfort in that the majority have been able to heal and go forward in life. I know you can get your kids back. With a good start and clean life, it would be the best revenge for those who are now indoctrinating your kids and possibly exposing them to abuse. Hang in there. Vent, vent, vent. We're listening.
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I've entered the embarrassing stage of pregnancy - let's have a laugh :)
by freshstart inso as you get farther along in your pregnancy and you get bigger and bigger, certain bodily functions are hard to control.
the other day my husband, son and i went out for a nice lunch.
we were dressed up and really enjoying ourselves, when it happened.
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Etude
Let it rip!
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Blood Cards :Now they ask for photocopy of the signed document
by raymond frantz inwe have been asked for a photocopy for each of our family's blood signed cards for the congragation's secretary records .we 've never been asked before ,is this a new thing ?
does anyone know more about it ?.
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You vill show your papers and you vill like it.
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The Bible-- Full of Errors And Inconsistencies?
by Recovery ini noticed in the "magic" thread many former jw's no longer adhere to the bible as the unerring and accurate word of god.
if you feel this way, can you please list any specific reasons/arguments as to why not.
this thread isn't for debating purposes, but simply for listing.
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Actually I found that many cultures in ancient times reasoned that the Earth was "round", especially those advanced enough (the Hindus way back when) to do astral observations. Their observations revealed it to them. The Greeks suspected it as far back as the 6th Century B.C. and established it by the 3rd Century during the Helenistic period.
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The Bible-- Full of Errors And Inconsistencies?
by Recovery ini noticed in the "magic" thread many former jw's no longer adhere to the bible as the unerring and accurate word of god.
if you feel this way, can you please list any specific reasons/arguments as to why not.
this thread isn't for debating purposes, but simply for listing.
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King Solomon, right. But you can't have a circle anywhere near a flat surface. So it stands to reason that the reference to the circle meant a sphere because a circle does not have any corners. So, corners must be metaphorical. I use the term "corners of the Earth" even though I know better.
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The Bible-- Full of Errors And Inconsistencies?
by Recovery ini noticed in the "magic" thread many former jw's no longer adhere to the bible as the unerring and accurate word of god.
if you feel this way, can you please list any specific reasons/arguments as to why not.
this thread isn't for debating purposes, but simply for listing.
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Recovery: Here's one for now:
“and Jacob was the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.” Matthew 1:16
“Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli.” Luke 3:23
In horizontal references between Mathew and Luke, both lineages are attributed to Joseph, not one to him and another to Mary, as some would argue. Suggesting one is the lineage of Mary is a good guess but has no substantiation. Others offer a different explanation to reconcile Joseph’s two apparent fathers: that Heli died childless and Jacob married his widow, begetting Joseph. But that's still just a good guess. That some generations are skipped in the horizontal accounts is not that big an issue. That they diverge quite a bit is a more substantial problem. That they ultimately don’t agree and can’t be easily explained is the real issue.
Finkelstein "Nowhere in the Bible is the earth described as 'spherical.' " Yes it is, even though that doesn't mean that whomever wrote Genesis believed that.
Job 26:10 --
"He has described a circle upon the face of the waters, To where light ends in darkness." NWT
"He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness." NSV
"He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters At the boundary of light and darkness." NASB
"He has drawn a circle on the waters at the boundary where the day and night come together." KJ 2000
"He hath traced a fixed circle over the waters, unto the confines of light and darkness" Darby BT
Proverbs 8:27 --
"When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep" NWT
"When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep," ESV
"When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep," NASB
"When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he drew a circle upon the face of the depth:" KJ 2000
Isaiah 40:22 --
"There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a ?ne gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell," NWT
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in" NIV
"God sits above the circle of the earth. The people below seem like grasshoppers to him! He spreads out the heavens like a curtain and makes his tent from them." NLT
"It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;" EST
ETC.
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Jwfacts, Why Do You Equate Miracles With Magic?
by Recovery ini have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke. I imagine what our world would seem like to someone from the first century. Some of the stuff we have and can do today, would make Jesus walking on water like a street side show.