i wonder what percentage of witnesses would be happy if the org.
crumbled, and they could be set free and live a normal life?.
any clue?
I would guess over 50%... most do it because they feel pressured by their parents, their "click" which includes employers, family, etc.
I ran into a JW friend from my childhood on Sat and she ranted about how much it hurt her family, yet she is still loyal and going out of duty. I am sure there would be a mass exodus. But what do you do with the people who can't handle NOT being in the routine?
1corinthians 6:9 men who lie with men will not inherit gods kingdom.
so i guess its ok for women to lie with women cause we're not mentioned in there!
lol
I like Avisha's point about a lot of married/straight/dating whatever heterosexual people have anal and oral sex. Is the act cleaner because it's between a man and a woman?
Maybe we should all be straight and go back to the missionary position. That would solve it all.
this is my first forum post though i've been out here reading yours for a while.
i didn't know how to post my bio.
i became a jdub at the age of 16. i had a child out-of-wedlock who was 1 year old at the time and i was searching for answers - i wanted my son to have a future and the one the witnesses portrayed was better than anything i'd ever heard!
welcome! It's always good to hear people that left before they got too old to leave and had no more options... It's so great you were able to make a life for yourself!
wassup!.
i have been lurking on this website for about 2 years.
mainly i haven't posted because a lack of information technology at my house.
welcome to the club!!!
1corinthians 6:9 men who lie with men will not inherit gods kingdom.
so i guess its ok for women to lie with women cause we're not mentioned in there!
lol
The way they "get around it" is by preaching what Jesus taught to love your neighbor, practise the golden rule. Remember Jesus hung out not with the perfect most holy people, it never says Jesus hung out with those who professed to be virgins, saints, etc... it does say he hung out with the prostitutes and the tax collectors.
So, if Jesus was willing to eat and drink with sinners, and he personally didn't condemn homosexuality, they have every right to have a religion based on Christianity and be gay. I once attended a gay church (MCC) because my best friend is a sign language interpreter for the deaf, she was hired to work every Sunday so I went with her one weekend. It was very interesting and very normal, normal preacher, citing versus, talking about God, etc. It looked like church, felt like church, and pretty much was church. Everyone seemed pretty happy and loving there.
1corinthians 6:9 men who lie with men will not inherit gods kingdom.
so i guess its ok for women to lie with women cause we're not mentioned in there!
lol
(Batting my eyelashes innocently) What Barney doesn't know is that I can seriously kick some ass.
1corinthians 6:9 men who lie with men will not inherit gods kingdom.
so i guess its ok for women to lie with women cause we're not mentioned in there!
lol
Barney,
May I ask you a personal question. Being as you are a bonafide straight man, (which I gather from your posts) have you EVER in your entire life enjoyed a bit of girl on girl action in a picture, magazine, video, internet???? Just think about it. Most straight men frown on gay male relationships but have no problem with 2 big breasted blondes kissing each other and whatever, in fact most men find it quite erotic. What is the difference?
For the record, if you didn't GIVE life (i.e. if you're not God) then what gives anyone the right to JUDGE how anyone lives that particular life?
And since I live in Florida too, I hope to see you on A1A someday over a pitcher of beers, maybe we can work this ideaology of yours out.
1corinthians 6:9 men who lie with men will not inherit gods kingdom.
so i guess its ok for women to lie with women cause we're not mentioned in there!
lol
That was written at a time when they were still trying to populate the earth with their culture, their people, etc.... of course homosexual men don't produce children, the more children the better was the philosophy of the time, so my take has always been that it had to do with offspring production.
Today, the earth is full, is diverse, we are living a whole different ballgame. There is no reason to have social rules like "no homosexuality" in fact it might be better for the environment if half the world was gay and produced less children in areas where the environment can't handle all the unwanted children who are born. (Although gay people can have children with modern science and adoption, I am talking about the unwanted pregnancies.)
so here comes patdp very soon.
it's not as bad as ipalfatn i & ii, but still its based on the idea of 607 and 1914.. how have any of you ex or current book study overseers handled this problem.
i'd like not to conduct but thats not really an option.
This thread reminds me once again how truly blessed I am to NOT be going to the mindless boring recitals called meetings... and for the fact that I didn't marry a Witness. That would have been the most difficult for me.
I was lucky to have left at a perfect young age where I could work, gain independance, and make it with friends, etc.... I really feel for everyone who is established in their lives and families. I still can't imagine living a lie. It's so wonderful to have the freedom of expression and freedom of living a life.
I believe this is our ONE chance at life, so live it up, and live YOUR own truth.
ok i'm ready to take a vacation and i'm suffering from information overload.. last year i went to iberostar in cozumel june 10 thru 17 - the absolute worst vacation of my life!
it rained 29 inches in 6 hours and 50 inches the whole week.
the power was out and a state of emergency was declared and everything was flooded and wet.. so this year i'm looking at the mayan riviera or perhap turks & caicos or st. lucia- any suggestions (be detailed).
I suggest Bora Bora and Fiji, and I'll even leave my hubby a note on the mirror when you come and pick me up and take me with you.
I've always wanted to go!
