bluegrass tom,
Here's a scanned Awake from 1968 predicting the end in 1975.
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The org is going down----I can feel it!
by stopthepain in.
my brother called me today.he is 20 ,3 years younger than me,and out of the religion.he still has fear though that it could be true,but thats another story.. he told me he heard my mother and father talking upstairs.my mother said about the org "ive put 26 years into it,i think i'm done with it,i might just go sunday from now on".this is huge ,because she was a devoted nutjob witness.she made my life horrible for the 1st 17 years of my life.i had been trying to suddly tell her the truth about the troof,but i didn't expect this.i'm happy and yet i want to know where she stands with the borganization.. this along with what seems to be an outpouring of similar stories,i have a gut feeling the jehovahs witness mind control cult is on the brink of implosion.everyone is so burdened by it.the jig is up,gb,good riddance when you fold.the rank and file have had enough.my 2 younger sisters are on the edge of mental freedom.i hope they can fully get free of it.. this is a milestone in my families long and strange trip in mental enslavement!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The idea of perfection and living forever
by JustTickledPink inthis past year i turned 30, my father in law is visiting and he's turning 62 tomorrow so i'm baking him a cake.
i have been thinking about aging and how it seems very normal to me.
if adam and eve sinned and no longer were going to live forever, how come there aren't plants and animals that were also living forever.
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Scully, I never thought about it that way before... thanks for giving me a new perspective on it. I always thought the idea was that if they remained faithful, maybe one day God would let them eat of the tree of life (the 2nd tree) and they would live forever. But I never believed they were automatically living forever. They ate of the tree of knowledge and then they were dying for sure.... but without partaking of the tree of life it seems like death would have come anyway.
The idea of putting out 2 trees and then telling them not to touch them or eat from them also seems a bit bizarre. Have a child and tell them not to eat these cupcakes and leave them there day after day, I betcha they eat them and I don't think your child would be evil for doing so, just curious.
As for Revelations, that whole book is cracked. Sprit beings might live forever but that's a whole different subject.
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Watchtower floaters
by Ticker inreading hollys post made me think of this one.
i was wondering who all has left the org.
and then in time due to whatever circumstances(guilt,indoctrination,family,elder pressure,etc.
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I think the key is making a life outside the WTS, getting friends, getting a stable job, etc.
The people I remember floating in and out were always having problems and would go back when things went bad in their lives, then left again, etc... but with some couseling, some friends, and a support network a person can make it without them bastards.
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JW infant dies after parents refuse red cells
by Lee Elder inajwrb member sam believer has brought the recent death of a jehovah's witness infant to my.
attention.
this story has been carried by the cbs dallas affiliate and you should view the story here:.
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A 2lb baby has a hard time surviving no matter what. This is very sad. I can't imagine, also this other twin has lost their sibling.
The JWs will use it all to their benefit saying that the blood killed their child, trust me, they make it a whole big thing.
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The idea of perfection and living forever
by JustTickledPink inthis past year i turned 30, my father in law is visiting and he's turning 62 tomorrow so i'm baking him a cake.
i have been thinking about aging and how it seems very normal to me.
if adam and eve sinned and no longer were going to live forever, how come there aren't plants and animals that were also living forever.
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This past year I turned 30, my father in law is visiting and he's turning 62 tomorrow so I'm baking him a cake. I have been thinking about aging and how it seems very NORMAL to me.
If Adam and Eve sinned and no longer were going to live forever, how come there aren't plants and animals that were also living forever. Their sins shouldn't have changed anything else. Yet, everything around us has a birth, life, death cycle. Water, rocks, plants, bugs, even germs all are born, are alive, and then die at some point. It seems unnatural to me to think of living forever. It seems more natural to think of life as a cycle.
The idea of babies always being born, the idea of experiencing childhood and then experiencing grandparenthood, I can't imagine just stopping everything and life being in the same state day after day.
Why do JWs love that idea so much? Why not look to science and see everything has it's time and accept it? Live the life cycle you were given and be grateful!
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Elder in coma said Jehovah was testing him.
by Es inan elder in my parents congregation passed away last week of cancer.. i dont know if this sounds weird to anyone else, but about a month before he passed away, he went into a coma, he didnt know how long he was in it for.
but when he awoke he said to one of the c/o visiting him "jehovah was testing me, and tellin me i was going to be ok".
so once he awoken he wasnt afraid to die.. does this sound a little weird to anyone, i just feel if it had of been any wordly person saying that god was talkin to them in their coma that the jw's would say it was the demons?????.
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That is just some nice story he told himself that his own mind created so that he could handle the situation. It would be hard if he admitted "Jehovah isn't real, he abandoned me, I'm scared, I'm going to die, etc"
If he tells himself that it's all going to be okay, it eases his mind. But they were all his own thoughts. Bottom line.
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Looking for Old Friends
by loosie inthis is my first time posting on this board.
i hope i am doing this right.. i am looking for some of old friends that would have gone to former sunflower cong or alona cong or park cong.
in southern california.
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welcome. Never been to California, but I hope you find some friends.
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The org is going down----I can feel it!
by stopthepain in.
my brother called me today.he is 20 ,3 years younger than me,and out of the religion.he still has fear though that it could be true,but thats another story.. he told me he heard my mother and father talking upstairs.my mother said about the org "ive put 26 years into it,i think i'm done with it,i might just go sunday from now on".this is huge ,because she was a devoted nutjob witness.she made my life horrible for the 1st 17 years of my life.i had been trying to suddly tell her the truth about the troof,but i didn't expect this.i'm happy and yet i want to know where she stands with the borganization.. this along with what seems to be an outpouring of similar stories,i have a gut feeling the jehovahs witness mind control cult is on the brink of implosion.everyone is so burdened by it.the jig is up,gb,good riddance when you fold.the rank and file have had enough.my 2 younger sisters are on the edge of mental freedom.i hope they can fully get free of it.. this is a milestone in my families long and strange trip in mental enslavement!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JustTickledPink
I think the problem is that they sold everyone the idea of the Paradise. I mean Christianity always sold the idea of Heaven, but you still lived a full life on earth and then when you died you floated away upward, everyone at your funeral said stuff like "They're in a better place" etc.... Heaven is such a nice idealic place and such a nice easy idea.
BUT the paradise was HERE and NOW and right around the corner... and it was EXCLUSIVE. I mean seriously everyone talked about Heaven, but here was this very special elite little group of JWs that all knew they were going to live forever in a paradise. Everyone was sold on the idea of perfection, perfect health, perfect surroundings, perfect happiness and bliss.
The thing is, you can't sell someone something and then not deliver. It's like selling land and the person pays for 50 years and still doesn't get the land... People have paid their ENTIRE lives to this organization and still don't have anything they were promised.
So yes, this organization will go down, because too many years have past, there is nothing more that they can promise, the end isn't coming. What happens when the carrott isn't being dangled anymore? The dogs will quit running.
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Just read through most of the Revelation Climax book
by M.J. in...if that ain't cult literature, i don't know what is!!
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Didn't even know there was a study guide! hahaa... love it!
The thing is, after taking college classes involving science so much of the Awake magazine and literature seems sooo elementary school. Like some remedial training.
I have to admit I am more interested in reading science publications and textbooks than I am in reading the Bible again.
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Goodbye everyone
by holly inits time to leave.
i have had all the answers i need to make a firm decision.
thank you so much everyone for your replies, for talking to me over the last few weeks and for some of the humour.. i believe the jws are right and that they have the truth.
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JustTickledPink
Holly said something about being deaf in one of her posts. My best friend is a disability advocate with a deaf child of her own. So what I am going to say is formed from my own opinion, but many diabled or deaf people are all looking for a place to fit in. If Holly has found a place for her to fit in inside the WTS then it's her choice and I can understand it. She must have her reasons for her choice.
We are a board formed from a lot of questioners, thinkers, believers in many different things, but we all believe in freedom of thought and freedom of choice. I don't believe my mission in life is to convert anyone whether it's to JWism or to Anti-JWism. My beliefs is to live and let live.
