a few years back a 'sister' in our hall was df'd for marrying a disfellowshipped man.
they were both free to remarry 'scripturally' - in their late-middle years of life.
i asked one of the local pharrasies why?
The young engaged couple DID NOT TELL THE ELDERS... no wayy.... But the girl did tell a girlfriend, who then ran to the elders, then the elders had a meeting with the young couple and their parents and they broke under the pressure and confessed.
They weren't so stupid as to tell... she just should have kept her mouth shut completely and not even told her girlfriend, but I think it was soooo tempting to talk about.
i was just thinking about the publisher stats and the birth rate, that was mentioned.. do you all remember in the 80's at the assemblies everyone was encouraged not to have children, to spend their time pioneering, because at armeggedon and in the time of the "tribulation" that it would be difficult with small kids.... to wait until the new system.. i remember a couple that pioneered and she really wanted kids, so her husband made her a deal that they had to pioneer for 5 more years and if the "end" hadn't come yet, they could have kids.
i think they were reaching 30. i do remember 5 years went by and they had a son, that was probably 15 years ago.
can you imagine the people that followed the advice and now are too old to have kids, but spent plenty of time pioneering?.
You're not crazy, they explicitly talked against getting an education, calling the "wisdom of the world" lesser than the wisdom of God. I don't have the quotes, but I'm sure someone can find them. I don't know anyone that was my age that went to college, except maybe to get a certificate like an electricians certificate or medical transcriptionist... but never a 4-6 year degree. NO WAY... you might grow a brain and leave.
my mom sent me an email saying that she'd like to slap my sister silly for the way she(sister) has treated her (mom) all these years.. my sister was never baptised and successfully did the fade by moving to another state - so my mom can have whatever type of relationship she wants with her - based on jw dogma.
but my sister can't stand our mom -- basically because she's crazy, mistreated us, and shuns me -- and my sister won't speak to her.
my mom has never met my sister's kids because of the whole thing.
Oh and for the record, my mother has told me that she "weeps because her children both abandoned her and Jehovah" meanwhile, we're not supposed to feel hurt at all when we try to have a mother than totally rejects us??????
Give me a break. Your mother is an adult. Remember that. If a friend, boyfriend, husband, etc tried to get away with treating you like that, we'd all want to slap you silly for being a doormat, just because she's your mother doesn't give her the right to treat you like chit.
my mom sent me an email saying that she'd like to slap my sister silly for the way she(sister) has treated her (mom) all these years.. my sister was never baptised and successfully did the fade by moving to another state - so my mom can have whatever type of relationship she wants with her - based on jw dogma.
but my sister can't stand our mom -- basically because she's crazy, mistreated us, and shuns me -- and my sister won't speak to her.
my mom has never met my sister's kids because of the whole thing.
Both my sister and I are DF'd although it was years in between. My sister is now 40 and the mother of 2 children... I am 30, married with no kids.
My JW mother has visited and even stayed in my sisters home because she wanted contact with the "innocent" grandchildren. She visited with her for weeks and sometimes months at time over the past 8 years that the children have been in the picture.
I live 20 miles away and have been DF'd for about 5 years and she refuses to talk to me, hang out, have lunch etc. She refused to come to my wedding even though it was held outside and had no religious theme.
I was very conflicted, very hurt, felt deep feelings of abandonment for a long long time. THEN I finally understood and resolved it all in my heart. My mother can refuse to speak to me, but I can also refuse to speak to her on the principles that she has been a mean-spirited, uncaring, unloving mother. She might not want to talk to me based on the fact I am DF'd, but I refuse to be friends with her based on her ACTIONS. I did email her before my wedding and we exchanged some verbal crap and I finally told her that I was a PACKAGE deal. You're either IN or you're OUT. You either want to come to our wedding, speak to me like a human being, or you have made your CHOICE to be out of my life and that decision will stand. When we have children, she will not be visiting them, she will not be talking to them, she will not have contact with them and it will be my CHOICE, because I will not have a flip-flopping grandmother in their life. Someone that might love them until they don't agree to not celebrate a holiday or something stupid at which time she will vindictively reject them.
At some point you have to make the choices, you have to call the shots, I refuse to be the receiver of her occasional nod in my direction. She either calls or emails me when she needs gas money or assistance with home repairs. I finally took a stand on that this year, I told her we'd be happy to come help her paint her house, but we would do it like a family and eat dinner together and maybe go to the store all together. She refused, so I declined assisting her with her painting.
When a family member only will speak to you when they want something from you, or as free slave labor, sorry that's not good enough for me. I'll pass.
It sounds like your sister is taking a stand. It was much more difficult for me to try to placate my mother and toy around with her, and have EXPECTATIONS and then be faced with cruel DISSAPOINTMENTS. Once I made up my mind, I've been a lot happier and free of the mental torture and heartache. Good luck to you. I truly sympathize.
ok, i have a question that popped in my head!.
what is one song you listen to and you love but are to embarrassed to admit it!.
mine is by abba ....fernando!.
Ice Ice Babyeee.... - vanilla ice.
they came back.
p and her first partner, s (who, by the way, was not the friend of my jw friend after all).
p and s told me that there was no reason to be upset about all the comments given (see below, added information); it was just a matter of misunderstanding ("like john and james, who thought that they were going to be sitting next to jesus.
I truly can't imagine how I'd feel having JWs in my home. We have a beautiful new house and it's sooo peaceful and has a good feel to it. It's hard to explain, but it feel so much like a sanctuary to me, that if I had them INSIDE, it would almost feel tainted, like they brought bad juju in with them.
hello folks,.
i'm curious if anyone here has personal experience with using a sun lamp and/or air purifier for depression.
chicago -- where i live -- is generally a cold and rather gloomy place in the winter.
just come visit Florida... you will be plenty of sunshine... we currently have our air conditioning running because it's been over 80 the past couple of days.
Say hi to Oprah for me.
the january 15th wt, "can you control your future" is the prelude to the feb 1st watchtower that contains the 2004 annual service report statistics.. .
in the second study article (pages 15-20), the gb acknowledge the fact that people aren't paying attention to their waffle.. .
there are some surprising statements in the last paragraph, but first, let's highlight some points in this article.... .
Also factor in UNASSIGNED TERRITORY!!!!
Yippeee, I remember the good old days of driving around South Dakota and not talking to anyone almost all day... but we had tons of hours in. It was in the summer, kids were out of school and we took the "vacation" into unassigned territory.
2 1/2 years ago i met my non-jw boyfriend, and i received a shepherding call from two lovely elders who told me that i was mixing good with evil, and didn't i know the man i loved was going to die at armaggedon?
they left me in tears...not as though i left my boyfriend of course.
i've made sure that things like that don't get to me anymore.
No, they didn't talk about him at all, just reminded me that the path I had taken would lead me on the "large wide road to destruction" and I needed to get back on the "narrow path" that leads to life.
Pretty much didn't talk to them anymore.
i was watching pleasantville (tobey maguire, reese witherspoon) on tv last night.
as i watched i started thinking that although the movie isnt about religion, the way the characters and storyline evolved, reminded me of how it felt like to be in the "truth" and then to be in reality.. the movie is how two teens get stuck in a 50's tv show similar to the perfection of "leave it to beaver" everything is perfect in this town, but everyones in black and white becuase they are not in reality.
when the kids arrive they start to the show the people in the town art, books, love, sex and everything starts to turn into color.
I just feel like you have a blindfold on and ear plugs in... you walk around and you're handicapped, you're deaf, you're blind and you have deal with your disability... but if you only knew that it was just a blindfold and you could easily take it off, that you weren't really blind... and if you just pulled the ear plugs out, you could hear.
But those are all great movies... just like the Matrix
