Posts by BroBennett

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The WTBTS's proactive steps at preventing child molestation.

by formerout in

brobennett, you made this comment in another post:.

breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion.

by the way, brobennett, do you have kids?.

BroBennett

Someone who wishes to stay away from the mold of this wicked system would want a religion that openly exposes all wrongdoing to remain clean. I would prefer the subject to be the Bibles proactive steps at preventing child molestation. This is only one form of sexuality, there are many more that are just as important to stay away from. Since you want the Bible's viewpoint I will try to list many scriptural information for our viewers and debaters alike. Of course I will hardly see any scriptural information from the debaters since they would rather stay in the dark and or make fun of one religion thier whole life since it didn't work for them for reasons they alone know.

If someone wants information about my religion then there are many volumes that he/she may go to, unlike the other "christian" religions of the world who claim to follow Christ Jesus. Since the topic maker wants info related to the Watchtower, I will show just a few paragraphs of information from a single June 15th 1988 Watchtower, the title is Detest Utterly the World's Disgracful Course.

It says,

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Christians see proof all around them that the immoral, debauched living of this world is harmful, deadly. (Romans 1:18-32) Just in the area of sexuality alone, think of the heartache and suffering that result when there is no respect for God?s law on morality: broken homes, illegitimate pregnancies, abortions, rape, child molestation, and sexually transmitted diseases, just to list a few things. Then there are the health problems that come when the body is abused by excessive eating and drinking, and the taking of drugs for the thrill of it. Giving way to greed often results in stealing and fraud. There is hardly any violation of God?s law that does not result in some physical or emotional harm to the transgressor. It is as the apostle Paul reminded Christians: "Do not be misled: God is not one to be mocked. For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap; because he who is sowing with a view to his flesh will reap corruption from his flesh, but he who is sowing with a view to the spirit will reap everlasting life from the spirit."?Galatians 6:7, 8.

Here we can see plainly where this information comes from by looking up the scriptures. As every Christian should know, we are sinners and we have to pummel our bodies each day. A victum of child molestation wrote to me since I am a Jehovah's Witness and had many negative things to tell me about my religion. I was not posting about that topic, but was at a sports topic which has nothing to do with this form of sexuality filth. It is sad to know that this goes on but it is going on for a reason, just like the reason why we all sin and die.

That same June 15th Watchtower says,

Think for a moment about the world in which we find ourselves at the close of this 20th century. What an abundance of wickedness! As the apostle Paul foretold, men and women are "lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God." Indeed, ?wicked men and impostors advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled.??2 Timothy 3:1, 4, 13.
Adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, and abortion?these and other words have become household expressions. Such things are freely and approvingly spoken about on radio and television and in religious and educational circles. Pornography is big business and readily available to all. Some of the most popular movies, stage plays, and television soap operas involve stories connected with immorality of some kind. How grateful we are to be no part of this! And how hard we need to fight to be sure that such insidious propaganda does not affect our hearts!
Wise Christians heed Paul?s warning: "Let fornication and uncleanness of every sort or greediness not even be mentioned among you, just as it befits holy people . . . Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord . . . So keep strict watch that how you walk is not as unwise but as wise persons." Rather, Paul said, we should think about things that are true, righteous, chaste, lovable, and virtuous.?Ephesians 5:3-16; Philippians 4:8.

If someone wants to know the proactive steps to prevent this sin from happening, they would have to live in a bubble and to stay away from all earthling man. To prevent a sin from happening you would want to at least associate with those who fill thier minds with good things. If anyone feels that a Jehovah's Witness only has uncleanness and that the religion is a "breeding ground for child molesters"... then they should stay away from them. But know that they are instructed by Jehovah every single week to obstain from every sort of badness.

Here is the conclusion of that same Watchtower,

As this world?s moral condition worsens, be firmly resolved to please Jehovah by doing what is clean, honorable, and right. Keep reaching out for the prize of life. Refuse to be sucked into this world?s "low sink of debauchery," which is a hole of death. You can win in the battle against debauched thinking if you detest utterly this world?s disgraceful course!

Does the earth need proof that this moral condition is getting worse? I doubt that, but there are plenty of people pushing blame on the right hearted ones which further shows the need for a new world.

I am aware of the Silent Lambs ploy to attack God's people, that way they take attention off from the serious matters at hand, worshiping Jehovah. The Bible shows that there will be ridiculers in the last days.. I do not have children, but I have had neices and nephews that have been kept safe from pedophiles. Only one child in another congregation has been put though this and the child has recieved much needed help at the accurance of this gross sin. The child molester was not a witness.

I would of enjoyed talking about the self defence topic more so since that is more interesting than this filthy sin. I am going back there for a while after I look at more information from the internet about the sport and what is required for a person to play it.

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

Formerout,
It is important to know that this world is still under Satan's [influence], very strange that you would think I would have to comfort someone with a history of molestation since I have no clue how disturbing it is to go through that. I do know that there are ways on preventing, and thus keeping a person from being exposed to such an environment. So I was able to provide the next best thing, the reason and cause of so much discussing filth on the earth... Satan and other demonic influence. I could go into more detail if we were in another subject, that is why I kept it short and to the point with the cause of such filth in our day.

If I have found any evidence or was told by a young child for help, nothing would stop me from helping since my Bible trained conscience would not allow it. The same goes with this topic since that is why I am posting here, I have evidence that this sport should not be practiced. If I was told ahead of time that I would be kicked out of a cong for helping a child, then I would still remain steadfast in telling the truth and be making calls till someone does something. I would hold on to that evidence till the truth came out.

My comment was true about the ones that are more inclined to go with the flow, the young. What was good is now considered bad, and what is bad is considered good by many teenagers. Breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion. There are many disfellowshiped ones that are taken out of Jehovah's organization for a reason. Lets look at what happens to the evidence in other less refined religions in our day. If a priest gets in trouble with some "christian" organization... they just get placed somewhere else and thus the cycle continues. Money needs to keep flowing so it is unfortunate for those false religions to keep unclean ones. Jehovah's Witnesses on the other hand do not depend on one or two public talkers to teach but they are all encouraged to grow and stay clean and to be fine motivating speakers.

Brad,

If I wanted to discuss the pedophile issue fully, I would be in that topic, But look, I am in this sports topic, has nothing to do with child molestation right?

Every single convention, every single month, these motivation speakers tell us all to abstain from porn, if someone starts looking at this they could see other forms of this twisted filth. Child porn is common on the internet and is tied in with child molesters. So you telling me that my true religion is a breeding ground for child molestation is by far an insult to me and whoever is a righteous man of our God Jehovah.

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

Big Tex,

I am not saying I have all the answers just because I am of the JW faith, I am saying that all the answers are in the Bible and should be taken together like a puzzle. Only the right heart condition will understand what it means, since that is what kind of people should have it, so that friends of God can live and be kept alive, since God wants all of his creation to live except those who have loved badness.

Satan said Eve would become like God knowing good and bad... But Satan forgot to tell the first couple that they would have to sin and they will become less and less like God. If more and more people know that a certain person is doing bad... then the truth will be opened to all over time. But the problem with these molestation crimes is that the child knows the molester, and the child is told to keep quiet. This crime is then harder to solve and seems less of a threat to society since it is so hard to detect. At least with Jehovahs Witnesses there are many materials written to try and prevent such a crime. If just one person knows that this is happening, there is less of a chance it will happen again, no matter what faith they are in. Don't forget that Satan attacks children since they are less experienced. This is so true with teenagers as well. There are more and more babysitters needed than ever before since one income is no longer enough to raise a family.

Jeff,

Look up Luke 10:16... it is not from the Watchtower.

Also look up these...

We can say of this ?second Adam,? Jesus Christ, that he, too, was like his Father in heaven. (Heb. 1:3) "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." (Col. 1:15) Christians are invited to walk worthily of Jehovah to the end of fully pleasing him. (Col. 1:10) So those who want to be like Jehovah God would be looking to Christ Jesus as their example so as to be walking in his footsteps.

So if Jesus was not into self defence with using take down moves, why should we be so inclined to think of God wanting us to play this sport?

Formerout (Brad),

I only saw one poster before me that seems involved with giving some advice, then two others have shown up after I complained that no one else but me has shown good proof with reasons to stay away from the sport. I have gone to the meek scripture, and showed everyone that the Christ would not partake of the sport. Can anyone picture Jesus practicing the sport?

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

Hello Jeff, welcome to the discussion. It would be good to have your take on the subject first before you try and judge me for going to the Bible for an answer to this sports question. Would it be meek for a person to force someone into submission with a wrestling move or some sort of self defence sport event?

How would you help this Bible based conscience kind of person with the question of what sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?, you don't seem real eager to help since no answer was given. But, Jeff... you are only interested in debating with me since I have all the answers but you choose to be in the dark still. I have been on this forum before so I am not fresh meat and will not be ashamed to prove what I know is right. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things just like there is a right way and a wrong way to play sports.

My point is where is this help for the people who are lost? , since the forum should be called ExJW.com. The answer before was, "We don't know but we like to make fun of what we once thought was right." But that doesn't make it right to make fun of the people who stuck with it and remained strong in the truth.

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

It is important to know that Jehovah's Witnesses know who the god of this world is.

It is also funny to see people respond only to my reasoning since they should be trying to help the person who started this thred. I am the only one looking to the Bible for an answer as well so it seems. If this person is a Bible student then he should dive deeper into the letters of the Bible for an answer...

Jesus Christ, the greatest man that ever lived, encouraged meekness by both precept and example. "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth," said he, and he urged others, "Learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart." Because of not understanding what it means to be meek, however, many have a distorted view of Jesus Christ. Thus in The Catholic Encyclopedia, , there appear twenty artists? conceptions of what Jesus looked like. Except for one or two, these portray him to be either feminine or ascetic.?Matt. 5:5; 11:29,

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Review: Draw Close to Jehovah Book

by Sirona in

i read the draw close to jehovah book because a jehovahs witness told me that it had some ?deep?

spiritual information in it.

the book appears, at first glance, to be all about knowing jehovah god and his attributes.

BroBennett

Your review is not all true. There is not just one writer, if you have viewed the second page you would of seen a letter to the reader, the book was made by publishers, not just one writer. Also, God's qualities are reviewed in the Bible... and this publication of 5 million books containing Bible verses (which hardly any churches open) are inside it using God's name. The book describes the problems with people trying to distance themselves from God in the beginning chapters, by taking God's name out of the Bible. If you no longer have your friends name, you can easily forget them. God's name is Jehovah in English and the name means, causes to become. It is funny that the only religious group that uses the correct name is Jehovah's Witnesses.

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

Well being that it is more of a sport than a tool for self defence I will try to show you all what the Bible really wants us to all know and really consider before playing or even spectating.

A recent exhibit in the Colosseum in Rome, Italy, suggested modern parallels by including video clips of bullfighting, professional boxing, auto and motorcycle races, and spectator fights at other modern sports events. Early Christians took to heart that Jehovah does not love violence or violent ones, and neither should Christians today. (Psalm 11:5)

Having to put someone into submission might be considered a violent action, but the other aspects of the sport might just be as bad, or could be over time. Other things to consider are:

Sometimes the most violent are the fans.

In Britain there are plans to build or restructure sports facilities to equip them with closed-circuit television cameras for surveillance of the fans, to erect barriers to separate opposing supporters, and to eliminate any inflammable material whatsoever. Policemen have infiltrated gangs of hooligans, the most violent fans, in order to identify their ringleaders and arrest them. The Italian sports authorities, in collaboration with the Ministry of the Interior, have decided to use barbed wire in the stadiums as well as protective netting, helicopters, swarms of policemen, and closed-circuit television cameras.

Then you have the costs:

Then you have the hype and competitiveness:

On a normal day on the British soccer calendar, about $700,000 is spent on just police protection. Often the TV camera lingers on violent play rather than on those episodes that are judged mild, repeating it again and again by means of instant replays. Thus TV may inadvertently magnify the effects of sports violence in the minds of future fans and players.

Oftentimes a coach may tell a player where a persons weakness is so they get the other teams good players out of the game early. Most times teamates will embrace or congrat a team member for taking down the competition by way of violent acts. This could convey the attitude to young and old that it is ok to be violent just with a sport.

I am not saying it would be wrong to have a safer form of sport with tap outs and padding. It would be wrong to have too much [competition] and to put so much [money] into some sports that show the need to win every time it is played. That is because of these three factors:

Money, many people bet and invest with these games.

Nationalism attaches an exaggerated sense of importance to victory. The fans ape them, going to excess in their show of loyalty to their team or their nation, stirring up raging battles before, during, and after the sporting event.
Doping, or the use of illegal drugs that heighten the energy levels of athletes and allow them to reach performance superior to their normal physical abilities, does violence both to the sporting spirit and to the health of the athletes

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

Playing a sport by hitting someone might be frowned upon by our creator. So it looks like someone totally disagrees with my wisdom from the Bible here.

Some of us live in tough neighborhoods and deal with dangerous situations...

That is where you depend on your taxes, which all God fearing people pay. Call 911 ever?

...not us...crime has gone DOWN for the past decade...

But what about the some of us idea... what happened to your tough neighborhoods? Did everyone decide on going to the shooting range Sunday mornings instead of worship? Since that might be a friendly sport as well according to some people.

...so just give up any hope of defending yourself?

No. That is not exactly what I am saying. But at least try to avoid the killing zones. Defence is a natural reaction for most men.

...Ever think it might not just be for a violent end? that it may be a way of keeping in shape?

That is what the YMCA is for. Self defence classes are way more expensive and would hardly ever be used in safer countries, plus it is not even the best way to defend, only the last way.

If you love it, it is...Some people have hobbies and interests as a way of testing and improving ourselves.

Yes I agree with that. I never said it was not a bad way to test your skills, but most gamers know that there will always be someone better than you.

Balance...the old fall back of the hard-liner...

What? You never saw the Karate Kid? Haha.

There are no hard liners if it is someones choice to hit things with deadly force then more power to them. But you should decide on what's best to please your creator, since God does not care about badness. If you want to be a friend of God then stay away from all badness. This would involve hitting and kicking people to stay in shape right? Sure we want exercise, but this form of sport started from people who needed to defend themselves from certain death. And most people are more modernized and depend on more advanced forms of protection.

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

But uh, yeah...welcome to you too, Brother Bennett...I don't think sports cause violence. You can draw correlations where ever you want to, doesn't mean it's a cause.

Correlations can give a person an idea of what kind of sport is right to play and progress at. The cause to play it or not is still based upon the Christians attitude and conscience. To gather the entire high school for football spirit day in order to get pumped up or a person taking drugs to improve performance might not be the best Christian attitude. That was the idea I wanted to convey so it can have implications for the other sports available. It would be better to stay away from areas that have high cases of violence instead of spending so much time perfecting a self defence move. It is true that conditions are getting worse and worse, most Bible students agree on that. Even if you have many moves perfected, all it takes these days is a gun or a gang of people to destroy your chance of defending yourself. So it would depend on the persons well being and attitude to not have pressure into developing ones body just to defend against this wicked world we all live in. And in order to stay fine tuned, it requires the person to keep at it which I find to be a brutal challenge. Many sports have progressive stages like chess, the black belts would be the same as being a red player in chess. Is it worth all that time? Some people are very fit but they can still have a heart attack. It is good to find balance in all you do since the Bible promises a better life in the future.

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

BroBennett

Most sports players that become popular are worshiped so the sports a jw can join are limited. The Watchtower does provide some guadelines but like most topics, the conscience would choose what is an acceptable sport for the young and older Christian.

The main issue would be fellowshipping with coaches and teamates that need pumped up before each game, and some people still get hurt much like the gladiator sports of Bible times. Football has many injuries along with many other sports available in high school. Many young people need to go to the chiropractor just to get back to normal.

What sports are considered violent? How about looking at the news these days with the recent attitudes players have with drug abuse and fits of anger. That might give you a clue on what kinds of sports to avoid.