why the shunning if someone leaves?
why are they working so hard to keep everyone in?
is it money?
It is possible to leave and not be shunned, many of us have done it.
It takes a sloooooow fade and guarded speech in the company of dubs.
In the U K the elders are so non caring that they leave you alone and r and f members only shun if they hear an announcement .
we already know how jws will respond ( on a pole).
but i found an article that talks about jws views on how jesus died.
i didn't know that there was a time when jws accepted the cross unlike now.
That was an excellent article linked by Sweetyj in the o/p. It explains very clearly the use of ancient language and the fact that a word's original meaning is not necessarily the correct understanding. E.g. an obvious example would be if I were to write that, I was feeling gay today, just a few years ago it would have meant that I was happy and lighthearted........... but you all know how you would understand it today....
deer brothers .
who can help me download the korea 2019 regional convention video?.
i really need it.. please help me.. thanks.. i’m chinese .
That is the pre convention trailer..... if our friend wanted the actual sessions, I don't know. I couldn't get them in English. Only available through JW Stream with an access code that is fiercely guarded by elders.
Quote:
"Inside a courthouse in Thompson Falls, Montana, the Jehovah's Witnesses organization in September suffered its greatest court defeat in a U.S. childsex abuse case."
If it was September, it is not this year. I wonder when?
first of all, there's a new imaginary picture of jws during the great tribulation:.
then there's a picture of a jw family refusing to listen to "apostate lies" via pre-programed, self imposed information control:.
the description says:.
Joey Jo Jo said.
"Ever since I was a kid in the seventies we were taught to expect persecution and a general expectation that as gods chosen ones that life would be tough."
I was a young man then, I recall stirring WT studies based on Habakukk foretelling hardships and persecution soon............
I hid a Bible carefully in our then house, for the hard times ahead when lit. Would surely be confiscated. I wonder if it is still there?
i had an encounter with a jehova's witness at my doorstep.
i challenged them on blood transfusions.
later i looked at jw website too.
This whole fractions thing muddied the water for me long before I quit.
They forbid blood, red cells , white cells , plasma and platelets .... but allow any "" smaller" fractions.
Where did that come from? The Governing Body, that's who. Admittedly imperfect human men.
Witnesses give their lives for the rule of men, not the rule of God.
a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.
two days ago, i received a response from them.
i think this is gonna be the first of many.
Debates about 587/607 have been going on longer than I can remember and both sides are still entrenched in their views. All I know is that such dates are debatable , to say the least, and no basis for Christian faith or hopes for an imminent New World.
Anyway it is good to see Doug Mason back, and Scholar too, this board has missed your level of discussions.
........so far to date.
you've been warned....https://youtu.be/jjjnt5l5ts0.
Oh come on....... you have to see this for what it is, an AMATEUR production by a local congo.
They have a sense of humour at least. I am sure they fell about laughing when it was played. I thought it was funny.
The worst videos are the monthly official " Big Brother" broadcasts.... Yuk!
what would it be?.
mine would be "rocket man" by elton john.
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Ian Dury...." What A Waste"....
'the watchtower november 2019 study articles quoted below can be summed up as follows:.
the great tribulation is near, so become more entrenched in the cult by strengthening friendships with other jw's, by revealing your thoughts to them, by doing more for the org, and by refusing to listen to any upsetting reports about the org in the media or on the internet.. par.
19, page 7 - we must be determined to build and maintain strong relationships with our brothers and sisters now.
FedupJW........
What donation arrangement is this ?
I have never heard of dubs being given a set amount that they had to donate.
"YOU RECIEVED FREE, GIVE FREE"
