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  Head Coverings for Women

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower's ignorance around the historical background to many biblical directives has had a very negative effect on the lives of witnesses.. for instance paul said women should cover their heads because in corinth prostitutes walked the streets plying for business with their heads uncovered.

  hence head coverings were never a symbol of headship but a directive very specific to that period, as was the blood directive!!.

  watchtower leaders have been lawyers, businessmen, civil servants and door-to-door book salesmen, never, ever historians or biblical scholars.

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  BluesBrother

  Christian Guy.

  I enjoyed reading your post. I am not sure that I agree with your conclusions but it was a good read and made me want to read those scriptures again, in full context.
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  Overlapping Generations

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps this explains why the gb have a fixation with time and chronology.

  also why they keep their adherents in a prison away from the real world.

  lol.

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  BluesBrother

  A definition from the Cambridge English Dictionary:

  generation noun (AGE GROUP)

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  B1 [ C, + sing/pl verb ] all the people of about the same age within a society or within aparticular family:

  The younger generation smokes less than their parents did.

  There were at least three generations - grandparents, parents and children - at the wedding.

  It's our duty to preserve the planet for future generations.

  This painting has been in the family for generations.

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  B2 [ C, + sing/pl verb ] a period of about 25 to 30 years, in which most human babiesbecome adults and have their own children:

  generation noun (AGE GROUP)

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  B1 [ C, + sing/pl verb ] all the people of about the same age within a society or within aparticular family:

  The younger generation smokes less than their parents did.

  There were at least three generations - grandparents, parents and children - at the wedding.

  It's our duty to preserve the planet for future generations.

  This painting has been in the family for generations.

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  B2 [ C, + sing/pl verb ] a period of about 25 to 30 years, in which most human babiesbecome adults and have their own children:

  A generation ago, home computers were virtually unknown.

  A generation ago, home computers were virtually unknown."

  
  

  
  

  Enough said......
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  If You Could Live In Any Era or Decade What Would It Be?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i kind of like the 50’s and early 60’s because of the innocence and “happy days” outlook by that generation.

  it seems most people were pretty innocent and real.. would you rather be living in a different era or is this century working for you?

  ?.

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  BluesBrother

  I say that my time period has been the best to live in. The baby boomers born soon after WW2. We enjoyed the steady rise in affluence during the 50s and 60s, we had the best music in the 60s to early 70s ( IMHO) We experienced no wars or hardship on home soil.

  I am glad to be in the last part of my life now, though. As time goes by I find it harder and harder to relate to the modern world of digital tech. , struggling economy, changing social habits and standards, and what sounds to me rotten music. !
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  New World Translation - Variants

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  new world translation - variantstentative translations below.

  you native language experts can probably do better than me.

  if so, help yourself.. matthew 24.3, english edition: “what will be the sign of... the conclusion of the system of things?”french, 1987: “quel sera le signe de… la conclusion du système de choses” (...the system of things)french revised: “quel sera le signe de… la période finale du monde?” (…the final period of the world)german revised: “und den abschluss des weltsystems erkennen?” (the conclusion of the world system)spanish revised: “qué señal habrá... de la conclusión del sistema?” (…conclusion of the system)matthew 24.45, "the faithful and discreet slave":italian revised: “lo schiavo fedele e saggio” = “the faithful and wise slave”portuguese revised: “o escravo fiel e prudente” = “the faithful and prudent slave”spanish revised, “el esclavo fiel y prudente” = “the faithful and prudent slave”matthew 25.46,(english edition), “cutting-off” contrasted with “everlasting life” in the same verse.

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  BluesBrother

  I recall hearing an audio from one of Ray Franz's associates , a Chris Sanches who had been involved in the original translation of The NWT into Spanish.. He maintained that the forward contained "a lie" , when it said this Bible has been translated from the original languages. In fact it was taken from the English NWT of the time.
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  Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.

  watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!

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  BluesBrother

  The thread title said " anytime soon" ....that is the key. I suspect they can reinvent doctrine to explain why Armageddon is perpetually "soon" . Their lawyers and accountants can keep the business side going gor some years to come.

  Eventually, I am sure it will wind up. Surely the years of big growth are over but there are 8 million devout dubs who dont want to know the truth about "the truth"

  Eventually, though as Gamaliel said, it will wind up since it is NOT from God ( Acts chapt.5)

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  Saw a post on reddit...

  by Biahi in

  1. jw
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  many exjw’s don’t remember their birthdays or birthdates, some actually guess and are off by a year or two.

  i’m always proud to say my age, and i’m a woman, here’s why.

  i thought i would be dead in 1975. i turned 16 in 1975, and i thought god would kill me because he knew i hated being a jw, even though i hated it, i thought it was ‘da troof’.

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  BluesBrother

  Back in the day, I called at the bank to deliver a form that my wife had completed. Unfortunately she had neglected to write in her date of birth.

  The bank clerk asked me , "what is your wife's date of birth?" ..... As non birthday keeping Witnesses, I had to admit I did not know..

  "Fancy not knowing your wife's birthday" she tutted !

  I did learn it after that.
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  Publisher numbers versus baptised witnesses.

  by amandm in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!

  from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.

  i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.

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  BluesBrother

  If they counted all the baptized, I and most others on here would be included. At least as it is, six months after stop reporting you are not counted and generally slip off the radar
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  First visit to Kingdom Hall turned out to be a nightmare!

  by Atlantis in

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  a first time visit to a kingdom hall turned out to be a nightmare for this young lady.. .

  https://www.azfamily.com/news/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-teen-girl-outside-glendale-church/article_2fe560c0-c36b-11e9-997b-fb25195e2ed1.html .

  atlantis!

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  BluesBrother

  Poor kid!

  Around here the car parks are monitored.....I always thought that was going over the top with security.......
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  I genuinely burst out laughing.................

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...when i read a reply to an email which i sent to a devout couple of jw's, showing the luxurious accommodation which "vows of poverty" jw's have been living in.. https://ibsaproperty.com.

  the reply began by apologising for their "bad french.

  " brilliant!

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  BluesBrother

  I was told some time ago that one of the advantages of the Chelmsford project was that it would allow the sale of several buildings that were then used for residences off the site of the old Bethel. Judging by the postcodes they are all in spitting distance of the old site.

  It is a lot of money but that is what property costs in that part of the world. I would accept it if we were told that they have been done up for sale.

  That is how they will pay for a super new UK base at Chelmsford.
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  1914 Was Originally Just 40 Years Past the End Date of 1874, That's All it Was!

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you don't need to understand complicated ways to go from 607bce to 1914ce.

  you don't have to go back to the late 1700's to understand the founding of jehovah's witnesses on the back of william miller's teachings.

  you just need to know that watchtower math and past doctrines along with changes in teachings are all based on lies.

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  BluesBrother

  OTWO said

  "You can find anything if you work backwards. It's like writing a Sherlock Holmes story. Just work backwards from what a great detective would expect to find and make him look like a genius in discovering those things."

  Thats so true, but it can sound so convincing if you are wanting to believe, or have been brought up in it and don't know better