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  As a JW Did You Prefer a “Stricter” Congregation or a More Liberal One?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  in my experience, there were three types of witnesses.

  some were barely witnesses while others were extremely conservative types who followed the letter of the law.

  and then you had those in the middle who just went with the flow.. i knew many witnesses who “felt safe” being in a stricter environment.they were actually proud that they belonged to such and such congregation because it was filled with strict bethelites..

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  BluesBrother

  It depends what you mean by strict or liberal..

  in my experience BOEs that stuck close to the rules would “strain out the gnat but swallow the camel” , as Jesus said. They would point to W/Tower paragraph thus or old Kingdom Ministry such and such to prove you wrong about some piddling issue. However they could be oblivious to potentially dangerous situations developing that ended up in somebody being before a J C for bad behaviour.

  in the real old days, 1970’s , I served with wise elders who had seen life before becoming J W’s . We interpreted the rules as guidelines and applied them with common sense . Anything serious was hopefully nipped in the bud by acting quickly and firmly. The result was a happy congregation and “The Truth” ( as we misguidedly called it) was FUN.
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  Watchtower ships

  by Sektenkult in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hi there, i found out yet about the ship's which our holy stock company watchtower had in paraguay, el pionero uno, the ship el pionero dos and el pionero tres.

  all three have been built by jehovah's witnesses themselves and the first 2 ships have been sold with 100% interest.

  i am now interested if anyone of you heard if watchtower does the same in other countries, like the philippines, venezuela or belize, building ships for free by the cult members and selling them years later profitable.

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  BluesBrother

  The good ship “Lightbearer”

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/from-our-archives/lightbearer-spiritual-light-southeast-asia/#?insight%5Bsearch_id%5D=6706ae95-b80e-4919-bbad-00e3293de31b&insight%5Bsearch_result_index%5D=1
  
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  "Do you believe that the 'faithful slave' is God's channel of communication?"

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a jw had the nerve to ask me this question, i'd say to them, "you go first.

  using only scriptural proof, show me why you believe that the wtbts/ccojw is god's choice and i'll tell you if i agree with your scriptural reasoning.".

  wait for the silence and the rabbit in the headlights moment.. i searched on the wt cd rom for references of "channel of communication.".

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  BluesBrother

  Need to be careful who you debate with.... I've been reading the Revised Shepherd the Flock book and apostasy is still defined as spreading false teachings i.e. against the teaching of the written Watchtower.

  Depending on who you discuss it with, things could easly escalate...
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  With these 2 long term building projects will it FINALLY wake up some jdub's?

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the ramped up rhetoric the last few years many were totally convinced the end would be here by 2019-20 .

  and instead of making due, the org.

  has burdened the brothers once again to donate and volunteer for the new and improved patterson and video production center to be completed by 2026!

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  BluesBrother

  That link for the "enormous media centre " will not open for me "error 16..." security
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  2019 Shepherd The Flock Of God and More!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2019 information-for-expectant-mothers-s-401-e. 2019-addendum-to-shepherd-book-sfla-e_bi2019-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-october-sfl_e2020-kingdom-ministry-school-program-elders-pgme-20-e. instructions to access my profile.

  https://we.tl/t-rex13nnhax atlantis!

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  BluesBrother

  Info for Expectant Mothers is illuminating. They are aware of the risks their blood policy brings....

  "8. Postpartum Hemorrhage: Discuss with your doctor postpartum hemorrhage (PPH).

  PPH is excessive and potentially life-threatening bleeding that may occur during or after

  delivery. Ask your doctor how he will prevent or control PPH. Although PPH is not com-

  mon, it is serious, and advance preparation by your obstetric team is vital. There are a

  number of basic management options, such as using medical or surgical techniques to re-

  duce bleeding, recycling your own blood (cell salvage), and administering clotting factors

  (which could include blood fractions). Ask your obstetrician to monitor you closely for

  bleeding after delivery.

  9. Emergency Hysterectomy: Inform your obstetrician in advance whether or not you

  would consent to an emergency hysterectomy (surgical removal of the uterus) if all other

  measures have failed to stop major bleeding after childbirth. In such cases, early emer-

  gency hysterectomy can be lifesaving"

  ................

  NB Formatting is hard on a tablet ....
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  Our Spiritual Heritage of Failed Expectations

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.

  was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.

  in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?

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  BluesBrother

  Do you mean "Expectation postponed makes a heart sick"....Prov. 13: 12

  That is certainly true . Now that we struggle with the ailments common to old people, it must be sickening to those still clinging to their faith
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  New Study Bible Photos!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  new study bible photos from reddit if you want them.

  these are a bit larger photos.

  see first page for info.. .

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  BluesBrother

  I’ll second that , Room 215, very well said. It’s a point not lost on many older dubs who are at a loss with the current video /IPad techno society that it has become.

  From what we see, this is background to the scriptures served on a plate , nothing that could not be found by a google search , but that requires a little brain power and effort to lift one finger .
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  The smug arrogance of "having the truth".

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  has anyone noticed that witnesses (from the top down) seem to have a quiet form of smug arrogance toward all non witnesses?.

  perhaps it comes from being told how "special and unique" they are but they end up looking down on all normal members of the community because they are not witnesses.. so any form of "love" they show those in the territory is also limited as long as they accept the message...otherwise they are viewed contemptuously as "worldly" and therefore of little value...after all,they will be destroyed right?.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes, I was a smug, WT opinionated so and so. Looking back, I cringe at some of the smart ass comments I made to my work mates . They were very decent not to hold it against me.

  The WTS teaches you to be like that. You believe you are one of God's chosen people . You have knowledge that shows the great minds of the world to be wrong .... we used to joke that our little kids "know more than the Pope of Rome" , if they know basic "truths"

  No wonder we were big heads!
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  "This is Where They Lived Happily Ever After Begins"

  by The Bethelite in

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  2. friends

  i saw this sign (i'm sure the bride must have bought it) at a wedding rehearsal dinner yesterday.. yes, the smiling bride was there ordering her soon to be groom around as they were setting up their party decorations.

  i'm sure today october 5th will would be the happiest day of their young lives.. have you ever noticed that many movies end at the wedding ceremony?

  because for the vast majority of marriages that is the best it ever gets!

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  BluesBrother

  Marriage sure ain't a guarantee of lifelong happiness, although it looks that way to a couple in love.

  Reality sets in and , yes we change , but so what? You can either cry " failure, I made a mistake " or just accept the reality and get on with it. At times that can be a very hard choice ..... living up to your vow. Buu often it is the right one.

  For me, marriage was unhappy for years as we struggled to live as dubs, but after my rejection of it and the initial trauma , things got better ( we stopped argueing about it ) Now in senior years we depend on each other and I have to say that she has been great.

  So if you stick with it , it might get better, I am glad now that I stayed the course.
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  Today's Watchtower Study Oct 6th

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  todays study article for 6th october discusses 2 cor 4 " we do not give up.".

  in the race for life christians must not give up or be distracted by , among other things, postponed expectations .

  hmm, what is the difference between expectations, predictions or prophecy?

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  BluesBrother

  Todays study article for 6th October discusses 2 Cor 4 " We Do Not Give Up."

  In the race for life Christians must not give up or be distracted by , among other things, postponed expectations . Hmm, what is the difference between expectations, predictions or prophecy? The word expectation puts the emphasis on the individual not the leaders that wrote the misleading material.

  We have an example of a faithful couple who "expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914" but remained faithful for many decades after. There is no mention of those who did not do so.

  Secular writings report : ( Wikipedia 'Bible Students')

  "By mid-1919 about one in seven Bible Students had chosen to leave rather than accept Rutherford's leadership,[61] forming groups such as The Stand Fast Movement, Paul Johnson Movement, and the Pastoral Bible Institute of Brooklyn.[62] It is estimated that as many as three quarters of the Bible Students associating in 1921 left the movement by 1931 in protest against Rutherford's rejection of Pastor Russell's teachings"