Posts by BluesBrother

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What Has Happened To This Site

by Pants of Righteousness in

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sorry, off to get my gun..

BluesBrother

"To me, the "Org" has gotten less interesting"

millie ...

That is very true, even my steadfast family admit boredom with the current Org.

On this board I well remember the intellect of posters like Alan F, Blondie, Laurallea (sp?) among others . The board was more closely about WTS in those days.

Times change, even the sport forum I use has been taken up by politics in these days of Brexit, lockdown and Black Lives Matter.

But I believe this forum still does its core function, to inform and assist ex JWs. Long may it continue.

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The bitter irony of revolutuions

by Bill Covert in

editorial in local paper by victor davis hansen , a classicist and historian at the hoover institution stanford university.. this is something i think you folks would find interesting.

unfortunately i am computer challenged due to the effectiveness of church shunning policies cutting off access to kids and grandkids educating me.

so if some one would be able to pull up and post the editorial, i think it would be of interest.

BluesBrother

As The Who used to sing

"Meet the new boss

Same as the old boss"

(Won't Get Fooled Again)

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The Cry of Peace And Security

by jwfacts in

a bit late in coming, but i have a new article on the cry of peace and security at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/peace-and-security.php.

this was prompted by trump using the term peace and security a few times in 2017 and 2018, and the excitement this generated amongst jehovah's witnesses.

i would love to see other quotes you like on this topic, or texts and experiences..

The belief in the cry of Peace and Security as the precursor to Armageddon is still very large in Witness minds . I hear it whenever world events favour the idea......less when things go back to normal.

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Beards in the WT: Africa too

by neat blue dog in

as many know, african languages have for decades been given their own alternate cover with black people.

their cover for the 2020 wt#3 also includes a bearded man.

this can not be a coincidence.

BluesBrother

I have always known that the illustrations are localised in African languages ....it is no secret.

Without knowing the context of the illustration, are we sure this is a picture of a JW family,? The wife and daughter are wearing hijabs

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new situation in world helpful to org?

by Magnum in

sometimes new situations can provide cover for one’s mistakes or intentions.

for example, suppose that i crack the windshield in my dad’s car one night.

i go home, park the car in its usual spot in the yard, and go to bed without telling my dad because i’m scared and i’m trying to think of a way out of the situation.

BluesBrother

So they sell off K/Halls soon, while property prices are deflated and have money in tne bank which is being deflated ?

Meanwhile they haemorrhage members and gain no new ones since their is no congregation community to keep them together and no preaching work to reach out to people.

No , the G/Body may not be bright but they are not that stupid....

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What did Russell and the Bible students say about racism?

by Fadeaway1962 in

featured on jworg , what does the bible say about racism?

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and a video , johny and gideon: once enemies, now brothers , two men from south africa.. what did russell and rutherford have to say about racism in the congregations ?.

BluesBrother

Whatever the Watchtower said in the nineteenth century about race , it reflected the prevailing viewpoint of its time. I am not aware that it advocated segregation but in areas where that was necessary to avoid a backlash, it went along with it .

In South Africa in my memory their view was that the preaching work was all important and not to be sidetracked by local inequalities. They did a work-around and had black and white congregations.

I am not saying that was good or bad, but that ipwas their judgement and they mixed as soon as the law allowed

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Gorby has to admit

by Gorbatchov in

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for the first time in my life, i have to admit that the world is rapidly deteriorating.

first i saw a decline in democracy worldwide.

elections were a tough battle every time, unfair too.

BluesBrother

Yes ,the scene of the world is changeable, unpredictable,not always what we want ....but was it not ever thus?

This may be remembered as a “Summer of discontent “ and like no other most of us have experienced.. but is it harder to handle than say, 1940 or any year in WW2 ?

Times have been worse in times past . Have a beer and cheer up!

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Saving Money While Stuck At Home

by Simon in

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so you're stuck at home, you may be worried about your income, welcome to the world of filling your stuck-in-the-house time with saving some money!.

here in canada, our energy costs are going up because we have a carbon tax.

today, in the middle of the crisis, trudeau is raising it by 50%, probably as some perverse "thank you" to all the truckers delivering vital goods.

BluesBrother

We are saving money alright, no opportunities to go out and spend it in coffee houses and the events we would have gone to if it were not for the virus. It is a quiet, boring summer,but a cheap one.

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The National Anthem

by BluesBrother in

recent controversies in america brought this to mind , although i don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the wts rules that stop a jw showing respect for the national anthem.. the watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the state or its icon.

as such witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played.

in britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.. when i was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .usually it was orchestrally with no words sung.

BluesBrother

My reasoning was similar to the post above by 'Desirous of Change' , I went to a football International and saw the crowd standing for both anthems. That showed me it was a simple respect, not submission or worship.

After all 1 Peter 2,17 says " Have honour for the king" . To deliberately sit down as dubs do is disrespectful.

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The National Anthem

by BluesBrother in

recent controversies in america brought this to mind , although i don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the wts rules that stop a jw showing respect for the national anthem.. the watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the state or its icon.

as such witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played.

in britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.. when i was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .usually it was orchestrally with no words sung.

BluesBrother

Recent controversies in America brought this to mind , although I don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the WTS rules that stop a JW showing respect for the National Anthem.

The Watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the State or its icon. As such Witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played. In Britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.

When I was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .Usually it was orchestrally with no words sung. Therefore every time we went out we had to skidaddle out quickly or we would be caught in a difficult situation. The alternative was to brave it and sit tight feeling the eyes of everyone glaring at you.....

What about you? Have you suffered difficulties as a dub due to this issue. Is it the same in other countries?