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  Parents of Sarah Kellen, Ghislaine Maxwell's 'lieutenant', are JW's. Fear df'd daughter will be charged in Epstein case

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "parents of ghislaine maxwell's 'lieutenant' sarah kellen worry their daughter will be arrested and charged in epstein's child sex trafficking ring, as they claim teen was 'brainwashed.

  quote: but with concerns mounting over her behavior, kellen was disfellowshipped, a disciplinary sanction whereby she was expelled from the church and ostracized by its members, including her own family.‘it was all handled out there.

  it’s very private, there’s a committee that meets and they go over everything.

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  The Daily Mail again. That ‘paper has a bad reputation in Britain, a slightly up market right leaning tabloid.

  I can’t say it is not true but dislike that rag....
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  The Celestial Chariot seems to have a Flat Tyre

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you of course remember the fabulous chariot charging about, eyes everywhere, wheels within wheels.

  (elon musk be afraid).

  yes, able to change direction instantly, react to any situation.

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  Well, it has adapted to the Coronovirus situation. It closed K/Halls and virtually stopped the Ministry. This virus has achieved more disruption to the WTS than all the persecution from all governments combined.

  I wonder actually what they do on a midweek meeting. Thankfully I am not obliged to view them. It seems silly to talk about house to house work as if it was going on..... but do they?
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  Did you ever know a JW who was political?

  by wolverines in

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  2. experiences

  one black sister would always slam the jews when there was anything on the radio or tv about the palestinian's.

  i knew others who had other ideas that were strange and not neutral as we were told to be.

  the black sister would dress like she was from africa in a dashiki robe from time to time.

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  Political opinions? Sure but never in front of other dubs or at the K Hall.

  At home, among the family it is different... They are human and watch the news with interest so they have opinions. They just pretend not to... it is something which must not be spoken.
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  Did you enjoy some of these back then?

  by Mandrake in

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  2. humour

  i was bored to death this sunday, and suddenly i remembered that it could be worse if having to attend the public meeting on a sunday, even worse, not being assigned to the sound department, accomodating, being the mic guy, or reading the wt at the platform... then i realized that i hated just "attending" and sitting at meetings, those "privileges" were the only thing i enjoyed and made my last months inside bearable.... did you enjoy these assignments?

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  Of course I enjoyed the jobs. It made you important, one of the team, a player rather than a spectator... and of course it was all part of “sacred service “.

  The troubles came later . I must have done them too well. Later on I had the Cong. Accounts Servant role (tedious paperwork in those pre electronic days) . Even later I became Congregation Secretary. That was hell....
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  Website for U K Indipendant Inquiry Into Child Abuse

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this inquiry is to consider organizations such as jehovah's witnesses, next month.. here is a link to their site.. www.iicsa.org.uk.

  they are open to hearing from whistleblowers with geniune information and survivors who may not have previously come forward......

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  This Inquiry is to consider organizations such as Jehovah's Witnesses, next month.

  Here is a link to their site.

  www.iicsa.org.uk

  They are open to hearing from whistleblowers with geniune information and survivors who may not have previously come forward.....
  
  
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | August 2020

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | august 2020 .

  study article 33. the resurrection reveals god’s love, wisdom, and patience.

  8 for a number of reasons, we can assume that those greeting resurrected individuals will be able to recognize their loved ones.

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  As is quoted from the article:

  "it seems that Jehovah will re-create people "

  So, the resurrected have to be re created. In that case they are not the same people. Just new people that look like someone who lived before, are implanted with their memories. ..but it is not them.

  Without a belief in a human soul this doctrine falls down. E.g.

  If I were to back up all the files and stuff on my PC, then dump it and buy a new model ....I could have all the info loaded on the new one. I would then have a new computerthat " knew" everything my old one did . It may do everything my old one did, but would it be the same computer? No.

  Perhaps I am missing the point but since "waking up" to things this doctrine has not made sense.....
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  BBC Sunday Morning on Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  in august the jehovah’s witnesses will give evidence to the independent inquiry into child sex abuse.

  submissions will also be heard from survivors who have criticised the church’s handling of abuse allegations.

  their appearance comes as campaigners around the world are questioning why the religion is restructuring the organisation and selling off substantial amounts of property.

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  Thanks for the information. .. I was able to listen to it now on the BBC website link. Even living in Britain I was not aware of this programme. I wonder what audience they get on Radio 4 ?
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  Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it is a challenge next sunday for them .

  due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

  this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

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  It is a challenge Next Sunday for them . Due to starting the Convention Programme the WT study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... I doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .We on the look out for the King of the North to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week)

  This article makes a grand claim in par 2

  "And even though God’s servants make up only a small portion of the world’s population, they are often at the center of major world events. Why? Because Satan and his entire system have one prime objective​—conquering those who serve Jehovah and Jesus."

  At the centre ? No Christians were involved when Ghengis Khan tore across Asia in the Middle Ages. I am sure you can think of other examples.

  The next few paragraphs identify the King of the South in the 20th/21st century. . that is declared to be the Anglo American dual World Power

  Now it is true that during the World Wars they formed alliances (including Russia in WW2) and we sometimes hear of a "special relationship" . However, that relationship has proved thin in recent times and I suggest that both Nations would be annoyed to be considered sharing power. The British Government turned towards Europe in recent decades and certainly does not consider itself a junior party in a U S A led world power.

  So I contend this power does not exist !

  So who has played the role of the opposing King of the North? it is not hard to work out. In WW2 of course Nazi Germany gets the title. After that the identity shifts to the Soviet Powers who engaged in pushing" with the King of the South.

  Interesting in Para 17

  "The king of the north has supported the king of the south in one key endeavor; they “put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.” (Dan. 11:31) That “disgusting thing” is the United Nations."
  

  It used to be said this was when the King of South set up the League of Nations in 1919.Have they realised that America never actually joined that League?

  The article finishes with the question, who is the King of the North now?

  Sssh... I will spill the beans, since I am not writing all this again next week.

  it is.... RUSSIA !
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  J.W's and " but that is Pagan !".

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.

  yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.

  the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?

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  • Davros got me thinking about this. Here is a link to the discussion of the “ Calendar Of Jehovah God” which was to replace the Devil’s Calendar
  • https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6027819985403904/calendar-jehovah-god-historical-tidbit
    

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  J.W's and " but that is Pagan !".

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.

  yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.

  the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?

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  "back in the day when we had many an erudite Poster"

  Well said Phizzy. They are gone but not forgotten. ..Anyway....

  Pagan roots. Yes, back in history everything was tied in to the beliefs of religion, so things of old probably had some pagan connection. Eg.

  Wedding rings

  The days of the week named after gods.

  The months of the year too

  Many great works of art, commissioned by "Babylon the Great" have " pagan" symbole., haloes ,crosses and things. Some depict scenes from ancient mythology.

  Old songs may have origins in gospel , therefore false religion.

  Do you remember the issue of the Mexican pinata which originated in something... The WTS said that since it had long lost any religious meaning, it was o k to have them. Pity they dont apply tbat thinking to other things.