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  Serial killer JW hopes to go to heaven soon.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.

  https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.

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  BluesBrother

  Heaven or a ressurection, or neither...... He will find out ASAP .

  "Peter Sutcliffe, the serial killer known as the Yorkshire Ripper, has died in hospital, a Prison Service spokesman said."

  As reported in U K Guardian newspaper today .
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  Many Jw’s Love to Speculate About the New System

  by Davros in

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  a comment on another thread cracked me up where the poster related what some elder said on the platform that: .

  in the new system, we likely will not have genitals.” lol.

  i’ve heard so much speculation from many jw’s on what will and won’t be allowed in the new system.

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  BluesBrother

  You know, despite spending social time with dubs prior to lockdown, I never hear this kind of speculation these days. They don’t seem to want to talk about beliefs. Do they really believe in their heart. You get a bunch of football supporters together they talk about football and their club..but these so called “Kingdom Supporters “ never talk of the kingdom.

  in the old days it was different. I heard them all. ... Nakedness in the new world, a vegetarian diet, beards for men, or not? Children to be born? Marriage for ever?

  Whatever a person wanted to see happen, they touted that as the future..
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  Serial killer JW hopes to go to heaven soon.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. social
  2. current

  guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.

  https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.

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  BluesBrother

  Peter Sutcliffe started studying with J W during his years at Broadmoor high security hospital for the criminally insane. I know the local dubs go in there to preach and a local elder confirmed his involvement. The media later reported that he had been baptized. Well, welcome Bro Sutcliffe!

  After that though he was pronounced no longer insane and moved to a regular prison to continue his life sentence.

  I dont know if the Witnesses kept seeing him after that , maybe not? Or maybe Phizzy is right and the paper got the wrong end of the stick.

  Either way nobody will shed any tears when he snuffs it.
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  The latest “special” campaign!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, here ya go.... dd 🙄.

  https://www.8newsnow.com/community/jehovahs-witnesses-begin-global-campaign-distribute-electronic-magazine-in-november/.

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  BluesBrother

  That link was not available to us in Europe. .. however we know of their campaign to local government officials. This will just be filed,or binned, with all the other crank letters they get .

  Why do it. Because it is good, even necessary for the r and f to see that " important campaigns " are still going on and the work is not yet over. If The WTS lost their support, it would die.

  I remember a big campaign back in tbe '70s , it was anti Christendom. We all had 100 leaflets to get out in 10 days. Oh, we felt so important doing that . We really felt that this was a historic message that would precede the end.

  How wrong we were !
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  But you told us about those dates.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  you couldn't make it up!

  saw this wt quote on a friend's page.

  it is from the awake magazine of 1993, march 22nd apparently.

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  BluesBrother

  Despite their claim never to have made predictions in the name of God.. see this :

  The Watchtower Reprints, July 15, 1894, p. 1677

  “We see no reason for changing the figures — nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God’s dates, not ours.But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble.”

  [Nb.. there are plenty of good quotes at jw facts .com ]
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  New World Translation In Political Ad!

  by Atlantis in

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  website:.

  https://votehankorleaveitblank.com/.

  political ad:.

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  BluesBrother

  Well, well well. I'd bet that was not sanctioned by the WTS....

  Incidentally it seems strange to feature Christianity and The Bible in a politician campaign. That certainly would not happen in the U k.
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  2021 Regional Convention (will be prerecorded again)

  by Designer Stubble in

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  **announcement october 28, 2020 for congregations** .

  [read after the watchtower study the week of october 26, 2020.\] 2021 regional convention: many have expressed great appreciation for the special arrangement to benefit from the 2020 regional convention during this coronavirus pandemic.

  because of the uncertainty of holding large gatherings in 2021 and the evidence of jehovah’s blessing on this year’s convention program, the governing body recently approved the following arrangements for the 2021 regional convention program.

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  BluesBrother

  I get it that stadiums have to be booked early ,but to cancel all conventions worldwide this early?

  Nobody knows what the situation will be next Summer. It may well , and hopefully will ,be safe to meet in many lands by then . If they wanted to ,they would make provisional bookings of venues.

  I take it that they don’t want to meet up, which is surprising ,but suits me fine
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  The Myth of being "Spirit Appointed"

  by BluesBrother in

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  back in the first century we read that the apostles would "lay their hands" on someone and the holy spirit would be imparted to that one.

  appointments of older men were made in this way - at that time.

  in modern times the wts has claimed that their own elders ,min.

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  BluesBrother

  If this is true of appointments then it is also of removals. Many of us resigned because we had had enough of it but that is not always the case.

  Some years back a friend of mine on the body, the only one with an insight for people and a caring attitude was removed for making a family decision that was entirely his prerogative as a father. However it went against the advice of The Society, The back-stabbing and character assassination that I witnessed would be more akin to the Tory party (not to be political) then a congregation of Christians.

  I was disgusted.

  Thanks for all your comments folks....
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  The Myth of being "Spirit Appointed"

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in the first century we read that the apostles would "lay their hands" on someone and the holy spirit would be imparted to that one.

  appointments of older men were made in this way - at that time.

  in modern times the wts has claimed that their own elders ,min.

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  BluesBrother

  Back in the First Century we read that the apostles would "lay their hands" on someone and the Holy Spirit would be imparted to that one. Appointments of Older Men were made in this way - at that time. In modern times the WTS has claimed that their own elders ,Min. Servants and Organisation assignments are also made by the same Holy Spirit. Just last weekend the Watchtower Study repeated this belief :

  "these “gifts in men” include Governing Body members, appointed helpers to the Governing Body, Branch Committee members, circuit overseers, field instructors, congregation elders, and ministerial servants. All these brothers are appointed by holy spirit to care for Jehovah’s precious sheep and serve the interests of the congregation"

  Watchtower August 2020 p20

  Now what basis do they have for this assertion? At one time I would have believed it but many years sitting on a body of elders taught me to see it differently. The debates, the sometimes favouratism, the human hang ups, showed me that these were entirely human decisions.. A number of the people we recommended with confidence turned out wrong and they faded away or got into trouble and had to be removed I soon realised that Holy Spirit had nothing to do with it.......

  A sensible elder expllained to me that it was just that appointees had to measure up to spirit inspired scriptural requirements. That seemed more reasonable and the WT itsellf seemed to support that when it said :

  Yes, congregation overseers, or elders, are appointed by holy spirit. In what way? In that appointed elders must meet the qualifications outlined in the inspired Bible. "

  Watchtower 1992 1/02 p13

  However they soon reverted to perpetrating the myth that each appointment is the result of direct action by the Holy Spirit....Why?

  Imagine the value of this belief if it is accepted. If you disobey or disagree with the elders, or the Governing Body, that is rebellion against the Lord's appointed, as good as against God himself. What a wonderful tool to keep the rank and file in line!

  
  
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  2020 Meeting Content/Schedule - Anyone know what is coming?

  by JWTom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello all - no 2020 midweek meeting content has been published yet.

  anyone know or hear of what will be changed for 2020 due to the pandemic?

  even my pimi family (i am pimo) is scratching their heads wondering why we are still reviewing content from 2017-2019 that talk about all the future plans, field service, etc etc etc....that have all been derailed due to covid-19.

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  BluesBrother

  If I were a gambling man I’d bet it will be the same old same old, putting a shiny gloss on the terrible activity reports , telling them that the end is oh so near , and reminding them to keep contributing.........