Good points inbetween. Reading between the lines , the reason he had to deliver this talk Is that a lot of the faithful are concerned about adverse news reports and their settling of claims. They are worried. We’ve got ‘em on the run !
BluesBrother
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Splane`s war rhetoric
by inbetween09 inthe last talk o the saturday convention of jw was already often the centre of discussion, with all the name calling, logical fallacies and fear mongering.
however, it was interesting, not just what and how splane adressed the matter, also what he actually had to admit.
1) he had to admit, that the org is actually loosing court battles, left and right.
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What kind of literary device is this?
by EdenOne ini know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.
and then i say: person a is an apostate.
then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.
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BluesBrother
The ad hominem attack is “ sneaky “ in that it diminishes the person without having to deal with his arguments.
It is also pretty silly if you think about it.
E.g. Say you are visiting a facility for the criminally insane. Suddenly an inmate comes running down the hallway shouting “Fire! Fire! . Do you reject his warning and say “He’s just nuts ......”
No , of course not , you get the hell out of there .
Noticeably, the WTS denigrates ex members, so called apostates, but never answers our legitimate concerns. I guess they can’t.
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Have you been vaccinated? Have you had any side effects?
by LoveUniHateExams inhi all.. i'm 42 years old.
i have had two jabs of the oxford-astrazeneca vaccine.. after my first jab i experienced flu-like symptoms - shivering, wanted to lie down in a dark room, etc.. i experienced no side effects after my second shot.. how about you?.
how many jabs have you had?.
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BluesBrother
Yes, two shots of Pfizer. No I’ll effect at all
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Splane's "Apostate" talk transcript
by FFGhost infor any who can't (like me) muster the masochism necessary to sit through an 18-or-so hour commentary on a 30 minute talk from a certain famous/infamous commentator, here is a link to a transcript from splane's saturday afternoon "apostate" talk:.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ot7z2e/splanes_apostate_rant_transcription/.
there are many topics worthy of consideration, but this particular section really stood out to me:.
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BluesBrother
I sat through this three times ( glutton for punishment) final time yesterday in the company of dub family watching the Convention. They were surprisingly quiet after it ......
He spoke of corrupt courts , news media being biased against them .....as reasons not to believe what you read about The Society. Very cleverly, he denied nothing but to the sheep who follow blindly- he denied everything. To use his expression “ sneaky”
The good thing is the fact that they had to give this talk at all. They must be worried over there in War-wick !
I like to think that we have got them on the run !
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STUDY ARTICLE When a Loved One Leaves Jehovah
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | september 2021. study article 39. when a loved one leaves jehovah.
2 think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!
(jude 6) and imagine how hurt he was at seeing his beloved people, the israelites, rebel against him time and again.
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BluesBrother
They always spin this as "rejecting Jehovah". Truth is many of us learned enough to reject the WTS . That is a big difference.
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David Splane's apostate warning convention talk
by neat blue dog ini know this recent video has been talked about already but i just watched it and here are a few things that got me annoyed as usual:.
splane says that if a bible student says he saw some negative information from apostates and asks us to explain it, we shouldn't look at it or address anything specifically, but instead we should tell them to go to meetings and hear what we have to say about ourselves and also tell them to befriend people at the hall.
for any person with integrity and/or intelligence, this is not a satisfactory answer.
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BluesBrother
After this talk.... No matter -how poor the Sunday speaker is, how childish the WT article is written, how many times they are asked for money, how long they have been waiting for the New World....
They had better keep smiling and say everything is wonderful, or they are branded as " negative " " going out of the truth" " a bad associate"
Keep up the painted smile !
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Documentary: "The Adventists"
by Disillusioned JW inhere are links to some trailers.. the adventists documentary film - bing video - the sda live about 10 years longer than people in general of the usa, due to their emphasis on healthy living.
that is something i appreciate about them.. there are some similarities between the sda and wt/jws.
see the following videos.. the great disappointment - bing video - the video mentions christ will come to his sanctuary; the wt teaches christ came to the temple in 1918 (or so).. october 22, 1844 - we know the date.
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BluesBrother
When reading some stuff recently I was struck by some similarities between Seventh Day Adventists and JWs.
I never met an Adventist in my ministry days, but if a witness does and got down to a conversation, I think he would be surprised.
It seems they took the Watchtower out of the Adventists but kept a lot of adventism in the Watchtower.
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Since You Have Left The Religion Are You Happier?
by minimus ini realize that some activist exjws really don’t seem to be happy in life.
they finally got away from the organization and yet seem still negatively connected to it.
some exjws are always upset because of what the “truth “ did to their lives, which is understandable.
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BluesBrother
Oh yes. I am off that treadmill of constant meetings, field service , prepare tbe next meeting etc.
Sometimes, even now I miss tbe sense of spirituality, the hope that I had... but it's no good if it is not true.
Overall I am happier in myself . I have not done a lot but I have kept my marriage and that has improved despite our differences of religion now. I am told I am a happier person .I certainly feel it.
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Disturbing JW letters again
by Fadeaway1962 inhttps://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/anger-over-disturbing-handwritten-jehovahs-5705918i'm .
upsetting the locals again ..
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BluesBrother
I also think it is an over reaction. We all get junk mail, just bin it
For the newspaper it is a Summertime fill in story. He must have counted a full hour writi g a long letter like that.
NB the paper has done them a massive favour in reproducing it. Loads of people have read it now . The dubs must be delighted!
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Article: HOLY SMOKE: LONDON SITE OF JEHOVAH’S WITNESS HQ TO BE MOVIE STUDIOS
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-site-jehovahs-witness-hq-movie-studios-netflix-b947841.html.
evening standard, july 26, 2021. london.
holy smoke: london site of jehovah’s witness hq to be movie studios.by .
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BluesBrother
They have no interest in a building once they have finished with it. It is sold for the best price , that's all