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  Debating Disassociation

  by B_Deserter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been about 10 years since i posted here.

  a lot's happened of course.

  but here's where i'm at right now.. i was never (to my knowledge) disfellowshipped.

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  BluesBrother

  Given what you say about your mother, I am not sure that it would provide the barrier that you seek.

  Grandparents have a stake in grandchildren, that is a fact of life not only JWs. I have known of Witnesses with d/f’d adult children who still cared for the little ones one day a week.....with the parents permission of course, just taking the kid at the door.

  Frankly I think your fears of kidnap are unfounded. The WTS would never embrace such a policy. Even if they wanted to, their lawyers would not let them.

  I understand you don’t want your daughter indoctrinated with their beliefs. I guess you will just have to be firm with your mother , telling her to never say it in your daughters presence. A threat of not being able to see her granddaughter at all might do the trick.
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  Looking to learn

  by kimmy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry if i shouldn't be posting this, i am not jw however i have had past experiences with jw's and was learning a lot about the religion, in hopes to convert one day.

  it all ended suddenly and i guess i feel guilty for not learning more, i would get scared at the thought of bible studies and discussions in case it brought back memories.

  i was looking for any advice on the best ways i can find out more please.

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  BluesBrother

  I would agree with Smiddy, above. Those of us who have had our lives impacted adversely by that movement know that it is one to stay away from.

  However, there is a wealth of information on the net, notably their own site ,JW.org and I would recommend JWFacts.com for an informed counter view

  If medical matters interest you then study the website ajwrb.com and you will know more about the blood issue than most Witnesses do.

  Best Wishes
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  Confidential Letter from the Watchtower to all full time servants.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this is a confidential letter for all full time servants like cos, regular pioneers, bethel and branch workers so please don't tell anyone about this.. reminder 20,000 jws have died of covid and 99% of those who died or were hospitalized in the united states branch territory were not vaccinated, so whose fault is that???.

  my question, how did they get the information that all these 20,000 jws were not vaccinated?.

  hint; if you want to continue to share in spiritual privileges--------------------get vaccinated.

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  BluesBrother

  Thankfully Lloyd read the letter though at the start of his video so it does not need 50 minutes of time.

  They are saying to full time Bethelites an C/Os that they strongly recommend vaccination and in some lands this may be a requirement of the State to be able to meet and do things ,either now or in the future.

  OK.. as a vaccinated Brit , I see no objection to that. Such people are paid and supported by Watchtower so they have some reason to tell them .

  It is common sense anyway.
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  Please how do someone become an Anointed Christian in Watchtower Organization.

  by bola in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please how do someone become an anointed christian in watchtower organization.

  i informed my elders in my congo that i am an anointed christian..

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  BluesBrother

  This guy is a wind up merchant!
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  I'm now turned off by this site

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.

  in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.

  i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.

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  BluesBrother

  Purr purr is right in his opening post. The culture of this board has changed tremendously over the years.I also dislike the extent of political subjects, especially since much of it is Right Wing American which is a total turn-off to a Brit like me.

  In the good old days this board was........

  We could go on about how we liked it better back then, but what is the point of that ?

  It is what it is. We must accept it or leave. I find there are still times when I read things about the WTS that I never knew . It is still a valuable source of information. I learn what they are up to, what they are saying and I can still blow off steam and talk to people of the same mind as me. When you live in a partial dub household, that opportunity is priceless.

  If there is a better place I would like to find it . I find Reddit to be too superficial and lacking depth . I don’t use Social Media.

  So , I’m sorry if you go Purrpurr , I will continue to ignore the threads I don’t like and search for the good stuff on here.
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  2700 years ago Jews ate pigs

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from haaretz newspaper:.

  what does a pig skeleton discovered in jerusalem say about first temple era jews?.

  the argument here is that sanctions on eating pork were only introduced in the 2nd temple era.. so what does that tell you bout biblical accuracy.. .

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  BluesBrother

  One skeleton does not prove that it was on their menu.

  it could easily be , a non Jew living there, a naughty Jew who fancied a bacon sandwich.

  Any other ideas?
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  Did ANYBODY Here Believe The Witnesses Were The One True Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was raised believing i was very fortunate knowing i had the truth.

  i was groomed to be an elder.

  i figured if mother said something, even if i couldn’t totally understand it, it was correct because mother knows best.

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  BluesBrother

  Of course I believed , I would never have done it otherwise. I’d bet you did too.
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  Deuteronomy 23:1 funny verse

  by neat blue dog in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i'm surprised i only noticed this just now, deuteronomy 23:1:.

  "no man who has been castrated by having his testicles crushed or who has had his male organ cut off may come...".

  🤣.

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  BluesBrother

  Come come children, this is junior school humour.

  About castrations, what’s new? They do it to animals all the time. I was hearing yesterday about male opera singers back 2 or 3 centuries who had it done to preserve their high voice.

  Nothing untoward in Deuteronomy
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  Splane`s war rhetoric

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk o the saturday convention of jw was already often the centre of discussion, with all the name calling, logical fallacies and fear mongering.

  however, it was interesting, not just what and how splane adressed the matter, also what he actually had to admit.

  1) he had to admit, that the org is actually loosing court battles, left and right.

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  BluesBrother

  Good points inbetween. Reading between the lines , the reason he had to deliver this talk Is that a lot of the faithful are concerned about adverse news reports and their settling of claims. They are worried. We’ve got ‘em on the run !
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  What kind of literary device is this?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there's a name for this technique but i need a name, nonetheless.. if i say to my audience: apostates are horrible, satanic, dirty, sinners, mentally diseased etc ... all hateful traits.

  and then i say: person a is an apostate.

  then my audience will associate all the traits previously associated with "apostate" with person a. but i can say: i never said person a was horrible, satanic, dirty, mentally diseased etc.

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  BluesBrother

  The ad hominem attack is “ sneaky “ in that it diminishes the person without having to deal with his arguments.

  It is also pretty silly if you think about it.

  E.g. Say you are visiting a facility for the criminally insane. Suddenly an inmate comes running down the hallway shouting “Fire! Fire! . Do you reject his warning and say “He’s just nuts ......”

  No , of course not , you get the hell out of there .

  Noticeably, the WTS denigrates ex members, so called apostates, but never answers our legitimate concerns. I guess they can’t.