Posts by BluesBrother

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What happened to Catholic church bashing.

by Hellothere in

i remember back in the 80s almost every awake and watchtower magazine, think all, hade an article about how bad and evil catholic church was.

what happened to all the bashing?

was it because people in catholic countries got offended?

BluesBrother

I know some oldies who miss the days of clergy and Catholic bashing. Times have changed and the old firebrands of Rutherford and Franz have replaced by grey nonentities. The bland insipid message today is cold porridge .Perhaps in the modern world they are afraid of criticism for “ hate speech “

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Predictions for 2014

by PYRAMIDSCHEME in

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i predict that elvis will return to us...invisibly.

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what are yours?.

BluesBrother

Well, this one came true anyway:-

BANE12 years ago

“I predict that the apostates HERE will NOT have moved on with their lives but will continue to be pathetic bitter old hacks who will log in here every day and criticize, mock etc. their former brothers.“

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The True story of Edgar the Crow (as told by me over the last nine years)

by Terry in

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the chronicles of edgaras told by terry walstrom.

cue the edgar origins story .... __________.

i broke off a piece of multigrain bread from my sandwich and tossed it toward the little scavenger.. every frickin’ day thereafter he appears demanding (like a sleazy hollywood agent) 10% of my snacks.

BluesBrother

Had me chuckling all through,as usual with your stories Terry, and I got the Poe references. It had a resonance with me due to the happy hours my wife and I have spent feeding birds, ducks usually.

Around here it is seagulls that entertain with their cheeky antics. Many hate them but I love to see them.

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for all or all time?

by enoughisenough in

pasting this page for hebrews 10:10 https://biblehub.com/parallel/hebrews/10-10.htm.

it speaks of jesus sacrifice for all ( as in all peoples ) or is it for all time?

( one time only).

BluesBrother

Have to agree that the context reads as though he is saying that Jesus’ sacrifice was once only in contrast to repeated animal sacrifices. Looking at Blue Letter Bible site the dictionaries support this translation. The NWT is by no means alone in its rendition.

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Everyone else burns new UK sitcom

by Mickey mouse in

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i'm looking forward to this, having watched a trailer i think ex-jws will enjoy it https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/comedy/everyone-else-burns-simon-bird-first-look-exclusive-newsupdate/.

BluesBrother

Starts on 23 January according to the site that I saw. They look very like a rather exaggerated family of super dubs, but with enough differences to stop the production getting sued .

We shall see…

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Pioneer Hours Update

by Bartolomeo in

regular pioneers: 600 per year, 50 on average per month.auxiliary pioneers: 30 hours per monthauxiliary pioneers in march and april: fee reduced to 15 hours.

BluesBrother

That 1943 quote is amazing. If I still did those midweek meeting items (perish the thought) I would love to read this bit

“a quota of 60 hours and 12 back-calls and at least one study a week for each publisher.’ These directions come to us from the Lord ”

Then see the look on their faces.... Now I must catch that GB Update.

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Have you ever been on a congregation picnic?

by LostintheFog1999 in

were you ever on a congregation picnic?

i was on several occasions.. the arrangements were often announced from the platform after the closing song and prayer by the last elder up on the platform.. sometimes it was included in the service meeting announcements as "on saturday we're meeting at 10.00am at the kingdom hall for field service, and after field service for anyone who wishes, especially for the younger ones, we will be having a congregation picnic meeting at the beach carpark on seaview road.".

well, according to the new elders manual you won't be hearing those words again.

BluesBrother

I can remember some good times. The concept of a get-together was well known.... never call it a party though . It was just in a home with food , chat , party games and stuff.

I recall some bigger congregation “does” in a hired hall with everyone, sometimes a couple of lads would play guitar and sing... That was back in the nineties. It use to be the thing also to invite ones to dinner and have a nice evening. Perhaps Covid stopped that ...If I was in it I would be saddened by that paragraph in the book stopping congregation socials . Such things drew us closer together

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Front row seats watching the collapse of watchtower

by Indoubtbigtime in

i’m a pimo ministerial servant and i won’t fade because i want to keep my front row seats watching what happens next few years.. my predictions are that this current governing body will slowly die off and the current younger helpers will be the next gb.

they will eventually have new light that they were wrong about 1914 and the overlapping generations.. the new light will be something on the lines of the last days are now because of king of north king of south pushing each other etc etc.

they will do their very best to burry old literature and try to change the past trying to make it sound like they were right all along just as they have done for 150 years now.

BluesBrother

In all the 20 years or so that I have been on this board , we have been predicting the collapse of the Watchtower Society... either by scandal, finance or simply falling numbers. It has not happened yet and I don’t believe it will happen in the foreseeable future. It will continue to change,adapt and maybe downsize its operations but if they have half a brain at War-wick they should be able to keep it going.

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Does This Case Show The Value of the 2 Witness Rule ?

by BluesBrother in

i read this in the public area of jwtalk, about a canadian case concerning reena virk, over 20 years ago..

“manjit, her father, got arrested by the police due to reena's accusation of sexual abuse.

he lost his job, many of his friends and almost his family.

BluesBrother

Thanks all……that link provided by Peaceful Pete was a very interesting article by an experienced Psychiatrist. This case would seem to tick all the boxes and probably explains why he did not serve time.

Unfortunately cases like this only strengthens the belief of the sheeplike ones that most of these cases are “ apostate lies”

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Does This Case Show The Value of the 2 Witness Rule ?

by BluesBrother in

i read this in the public area of jwtalk, about a canadian case concerning reena virk, over 20 years ago..

“manjit, her father, got arrested by the police due to reena's accusation of sexual abuse.

he lost his job, many of his friends and almost his family.

BluesBrother

I read this in the public area of JWTalk, about a Canadian case concerning Reena Virk, over 20 years ago.

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“Manjit, her father, got arrested by the police due to Reena's accusation of sexual abuse. He lost his job, many of his friends and almost his family. The family at first sided with Reena! Can you imagine! She was urged to make the accusation by her new 'friends' for the money. Just before her death she confessed to the police she was influenced to make the accusation as she received a parcel of money from the government for her new foster situation, which the gang used to party with. When the money was gone so were the friends. The night she was killed, Manjit told me, she had remorse over everything and had already told of her confession to the police. She then intended to tell the gang the confession to the police and left to meet them. She never came back. Absolutely horrible!

Poor Manjit spent years to get his reputation back from all the government departments that still labelled him as a sexual offender.

His poor wife Suman died in an unfortunate choking incident in a coffee shop waiting for her bible study. So many misfortunes has happened to his family but he survived. He has now remarried to a lovely Indian sister.”

Also another one said

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I remember hearing this story in the late 1990s from a substitute Circuit Overseer who was serving our congregation. He was responding to the criticism we sometimes get for our so-called "two-witness rule." People say we're wrong for applying a 2,000-year-old rule to modern day child sexual abuse, and that it should not hold us back from punishing wrongdoers. However, it was for cases like this that Jehovah gave that law to his people Israel, to eliminate acting on false accusations. Reena's false accusation sent her father into a long, desperate attempt to clear his name, unnecessarily. If she had not withdrawn her accusation before she died, he would likely still be trying to clear himself even today. What a wicked world for not accepting Jehovah's clear directive!“

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I learn that this case is well known over there because of her tragic murder by so-called friends , but it is the sexual abuse accusation that I want to talk about. Does it really show the value of the two witness rule?

I think not . Under professional interrogation it is most likely that the truth would have come out and this one case does not discount all the other times that perpetrators have got away with it in the congregations because the elders could not take action.