Posts by BluesBrother

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mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

by enoughisenough in

maybe this has been discussed in the past and i wasn't here... what do you think?

are the gb members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur?

i will go out on a limb here to say that i think they are con artist.

BluesBrother

I can’t speak for the GB but I have known a good many people who wholeheartedly believe what they know as “The Truth” . It doesn’t matter what evidence is pointed out to them because they”lLet God be found true though every man be a liar” . They’ed Say “ Jehovah will clear that up in his time” and carry on. The belief that “The Truth “ is true is stronger than the most basic science fact . They would believe the moon was made of cheese rather than doubt their faith.

As for those at the top , I recall Ray Franz writing that they had little time to do basic personal study . So take a belief like the 1914 date they believe it because it is accepted and would never go back to open mindedly reconsider it . They have spent so many years in the institution that they cannot think outside the box and I can imagine that in the higher parts of Warwick, the power of “ group-think” is immense.

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Five members of Jehovah's Witness congregations across Pennsylvania charged with sexual abuse of children

by was a new boy in

https://www.fox43.com/article/news/crime/sexual-abuse-of-children-jehovahs-witness-pennsylvania/521-1d54cc2e-3ec6-4d20-b67a-fc3c5e8f2580.

https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/2023-02-07-presentment-2_7_23.pdf.

BluesBrother

Shocking accounts… I find this strange in the Matos case, the girl was 15:

” The elders noted that Matos'sconduct indicated there was a romantic interest, and that they would approve of it fi certain conditions were met. Those conditions required the presence of a chaperone and the commitmentto eventually marry. J.R. described this as "normal" within the community despite the age difference “

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Either the elders were complete numpties or there is something off with that statement. The Society has disapproved of and warned against teenage dating and courtship for as long as I remember ( even though we still did it on the quiet) . For the elders to sanction this they we’re going against “theocratic instruction “

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Talked to JWs Today at a Cart Stand

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

they were positioned in a walk way and i had to go right pass them.

i tried to keep walking but my legs went straight to them like they had a mind of their own.. they pointed to john 17:3 on how to get saved.

1 peter 3:18. .

BluesBrother

“They said that they already answered my question and that I was making them feel uncomfortable.“

Is that really the best they could say? Dear me , pardon that we should ever make them uncomfortable!

My Mrs would have jumped at what you said , and kept talking for an hour ….. they don’t know what they are doing these days…

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How unpopular is JW org with the American Public ?

by Phizzy in

barb.

anderson posted this link,on face book, see how far down j.w org is !.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/society/articles-reports/2022/12/23/americans-views-religious-groups-yougov-poll?fbclid=iwar0-i-ju-nmskoh2yvbnfacipc_vptwmjzrsjn58if3jxicq41vv2ke0lu0.

BluesBrother

So the American public thinks less of JWs than it does of Islam and fundamentalist (polygamous?) Morgan’s . That is saying something after all that has been seen.

However, the dubs would probably be pleased and say that it was foretold that true Christians would be unpopular and they would probably say that people are still flocking in….. erm, well ? .?

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | April 2023

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

study article 19. how can we strengthen our faith in jehovah’s promise of a new world?.

17 many servants of jehovah have applied jehovah’s counsel to “keep in expectation”—even for decades.

louise, for example, began serving jehovah in 1939. she says: “at that time, i thought armageddon would come before i finished high school.

BluesBrother

Poor Louise, No doubt she was influenced by the WT book “ Children “ in 1941. It was written asa dialogue between a young couple explaining their faith. In the end they make this decision.

”Ar- mageddon js surely near, and during that time the Lord will clean off the earth every- thing that offends and is disagreeable. Then, by His grace, we shall begin our life with a greater vision and prolonged joy. Now we see by faith the great THEOCRAUY, and we are wholly and unreservedly committed to that righteous government. From now on we shall have our heart devotion fixed on THE THEOCBACY, knowing that soon we shall journey for ever together in the earth. Our hope is that within a few years our marriage may be consummated and, by the Lord’s grace, we shall have sweet children that will be an honor to the Lord. We can well defer our marriage until lasting peace comes to

the earth. Now we must add nothing to our burdens, but be free and equipped to serve the Lord. When THE THEOCRACY is in full sway it will not be burdensome to have a family. Then we may often walk through these broad fields, amidst the beautiful for- ests and environments, and will walk with our beloved children by our side and tell them all we have learned from the Lord,”

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So the advice is to stay single because the end is SO close... that was 82 years ago ...

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disgusting money grab attempt

by enoughisenough in

put under scandals because i think it is horrid...got this from jw facts page while i was looking for something else.

check out how the jws tried to get money from a fund dedicated to holocaust victims.

: copied and pasted-.

BluesBrother

I must be missing something here . As I read it the agreement was sought to “ devote any allocated money’s solely to the interests of Holocaust education and the remembrance of the prisoners who bore the purple triangle “

That would have been binding and with the agreement of the fund . Where’s the scandal?

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Trust the self-appointed "faithful slave"

by BoogerMan in

no wonder they 'cancelled' the wt cd rom.. flip -.

w61 7/15 p. 420 - “...in order to hate what is bad a christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked.” .

flop -.

BluesBrother

When I was a true believer we sometimes noticed these apparent small inconsistencies. We used to put it down to individual article writers putting a different slant on things … and laugh it off.

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JW's: When EXACTLY did Jesus become king?

by BoogerMan in

i thought it was in 1914. silly me!.

w78 3/1 p. 18 par.

15 - when was god’s son made a king-priest like melchizedek?

BluesBrother

Any experienced dub would explain their belief thatJesus became King in the realm of Heaven after his ascension and was a king of the Christian congregation. At 1914 he was granted the Kingdom over the Earth , and began his Parousia or Heavenly presence. After Armageddon his Millennium Kingdom will begin when his rule is empowered over mankind.

Simple, isn’t it ? ( don’t blame me , I didn’t write this stuff)

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The "Time of the End"

by Rivergang in

for those who still hold to the belief that the last 109 years have been part of "the time of the end", consider this: .

https://www.science.org/content/article/why-536-was-worst-year-be-alive.

it would have been quite understandable if those alive during the middle of the 6th century ad believed the "end was nigh.".

BluesBrother

I am sure those poor people did believe the end is nigh , as they did in the 14th C. and others .

That is interesting and impressive that it is supported by tree ring evidence and other ice core samples.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: Zoom Cancelled Love Jehovah Go Back to In Person Meetings

by HiddlesWife in

this is a new video posted by the exjw critical thinkers jt & lady cee:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvmulzbczvm&t=1s.

i had a hunch that wt was going to do so, but this is happening quite soon.

BluesBrother

If it is less than a common cold , why are there around 8000 people detained in hospital with it in the U.K. ?

As an immunity suppressed person I am not going to a K.Hall for love nor money.