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  JW Elder Sentenced for CSA

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.

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  BluesBrother

  Did he lie about his previous conviction?

  Why do they not do criminal record checks for new appointments?
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  Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

  by MebyonKernow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

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  BluesBrother

  I could not bring myself to watch the video of the accusation, but that is all that it is….as far as I know. Has there been a police investigation? Have any charges been made against him?

  I also know nothing of this woman but reading Vanderhoven’s post above ( a respected member) I suspect that any accusation would never be considered credible.

  Therefore I still consider Antony Morris as being what I know about him.. He is a thoroughly dislikable ex GB member but I know no more
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  Sagely advice of a CO

  by Vidqun in

  1. social
  2. humour

  “a circuit overseer started out by saying that on this last round of the circuit, the one thing he noticed the most...is that everyone is physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually drained...and that cuts across all barriers and demographics within the truth.

  he then said that the one common thread that ran among nearly everyone was this: we feel guilty for feeling bad.

  he said because we are told to endure with joy, our minds can cause us to feel enormous guilt over feeling this way...and then, my dear brothers and sisters...he proceeded to blow our collective minds.. he asked us to turn to daniel 8:27….

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  It is refreshing to hear of a c/o who injected a bit of balance into the teaching. He is right that JWs especially old ones feel stressed and tired and they are sick of being told that they should “always be rejoicing “.... Conscientious ones do feel guilty.

  They could do with more c/o’s like that .
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  Are Elders prepared to take the fall for WT/GB misdemeanor's / crime ??

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking about this in relation to the directive given to elders to destroy any incriminating evidence they may have either on their pc`s ,e-mails , private notes in their possession, or notes in their witnessing bags ,etc.

  to do with child sexual abuse they may still have in their possession.. isn`t that encouraging the elders to interfere with the justice system ?.

  to break the law?.

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  BluesBrother

  Whether the WT instructions to Elders would cause them to commit a crime is a moot point.

  Theoretically, if they were to be charged with obstructing the law for obedience to the Society, would they still do it? I believe most of them would. They view their appointment from God to be more important and transcends any law of man .

  Personally , I would not have done it , unless we were under persecution and ban, that’s different.

  When I was a Secretary I found a letter in the permanent file that said that if authorities wanted access to KH property or records we should refuse, and take the consequences. I knew then that if it were a criminal investigation against somebody, I would open the door and show them what they wanted. I would not protect some hypocrite JW from the law.
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  Exes: Would You Rat On A Current JW?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it's an interesting thought.

  if you are an ex jw, presumably dfed, and you see a current jw in good standing engaging in behaviour that would concern their elders, would you pass on that information to interested parties?

  do accusations from exes and other outsiders carry any weight?

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  BluesBrother

  It depends. If his conduct was wrong but did not really concern me .... then no. Of course not.

  If it had hurt someone that I am close to... then yes. If it was a nasty crime then I would report to the law.
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  Theocratic Dressing Standard

  by NotFormer in

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  an enthusiastic new recruit attends the kingdom hall.

  the elders aren't sure about his style of wardrobe.. does something like this ever really happen with new recruits?.

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  I have seen bright coloured jackets and trousers in a KH.. It would be tolerated in a newbie for the sake of drawing him in . But he would not be chosen to carry the microphone.
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  A divorced single sistet

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it was an opinion of someone that to be a divorced, single sister i. the organization was the lowest social standing you can have.

  why are they dispised?

  ( what if was a scriptural divorce where husband cheated?

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  BluesBrother

  In answer to a comment above, the congregation has no place in trying to solve marital disputes. I remember as an Elder being taught that we should never give advice or tell people what to do. “ Would you like to be responsible if it goes wrong?” They should just point out the scriptural principals.

  Another situation for a woman is if her husband leaves the faith.. She becomes a “ spiritual widow “. My wife has said how the various congregations have treated her totally different to when she was an elders wife.
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  "Career Christians" ignore these Scriptures

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the apostle paul instructed christians regarding work and providing for oneself.

  his bible standards and instructions are completely dismissed by everyone who's jumped on the christianity gravy-train:.

  (acts 18:3) "and on account of being of the same trade he stayed at their home, and they worked, for they were tent makers by trade.

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  BluesBrother

  One phrase that always grated on me was when I heard C/o and others speak of their “ Theocratic career”

  Ugh ! It smacks of self seeking career minded middle managers, the ones I dealt with at work… I guess they were all the same…..🤬
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  PIMI wife told to go against her husband and take the vaccines?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a pimi sister has been told by her unbelieving husband not to take these experimental vaccines then what is official jw policy in this situation?.

  should she go against her husband and tell him i will do what the men at my church tell me?.

  what on earth will the husband think then?

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  BluesBrother

  “she talked to the elders who told her to obey your husband unless it goes against Gods direction.”

  Actually That is WT policy. But what is Gods direction? Normally understood to be used if a complete ban on worship is imposed. This was a recommendation not a command.

  I believe people do want they really wanted to do. He likely had a girlfriend and wanted rid of her. She probably wanted an excuse to disobey the controlling husband. Ce la Vie ....

  Nb I know Witnesses in good standing who refused vaccination. It is a personal medical choice .
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  Tony Morris replaced - by ANOTHER teleprompter reader!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the whitewashing of tm111 from jw history continues - tending to confirm that he was booted.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ghbhv6961a.

  i'm pretty sure the cult got him to sign a nice nda - in exchange for a lifetime residency in the house bought by wt..

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  BluesBrother

  Reminds one of George Orwell, 1984

  ”People simply disappeared, always during the night. Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word.”