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  New light isn't that new outside the USA?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all this recent new light etc has everyone talking but none of it is that unusual here in ireland.

  i've been df'd for 15 years, my parents started talking to me again when i had my first child nearly 13 years ago now.

  last year my sister in law started talking to me again also, at the one meeting i attended last year quite a few people chatted to me and said hello.. i'm just wondering if all this is only a big deal in the usa or is this neck of the woods just particularly rebellious anyway?

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  BluesBrother

  I note what the o/p says about things in Ireland . I can believe that because there are definitely regional differences. I have long noticed that things here in the UK are not so hard nosed as many have reported from the USA.
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  June 2024 WT: Don't talk about Anthony Morris

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the latest study edition mentions hypothetical scenarios of jws who are no longer serving at bethel or no longer elders, etc.

  and says we shouldn't speculate, as defaming them could border on slander.. we could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information.

  ..... would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others?.

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  BluesBrother

  I think it is worth seeing the quote in more context. Of course it does not mention AM3, but says this.

  “12 Psalm 15:3 also reminds us that Jehovah’s guests do nothing bad to their neighbors and do not defame their friends. What might that involve?

  13 We could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information. For example: (1) a sister discontinues her full-time service, (2) a married couple no longer serve at Bethel, or (3) a brother is no longer serving as an elder or a ministerial servant. Would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others? There may well be reasons for the change that we are unaware of. Furthermore, a guest in Jehovah’s tent “does nothing bad to his neighbor, and he does not defame his friends”

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  Around here , I note the the dubs I know never know who the members of the GB are anyway. All the presenters are just faces on the screen. They might refer the fat one , or now the bearded one …..
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  Former Jehovah's Witness elder committed to stand trial accused of Sunshine Coast rapes, sexual abuse

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-20/former-jehovahs-witness-elder-to-stand-trial-accused-of-rape/103612422.

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  BluesBrother

  Thanks for the alert. It is all so depressingly familiar, isn’t it ….
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  Beards vs. Shunning announcements

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during lett’s announcement that beards are now allowed he elaborated at some length how brothers ought to feel and react to the change in policy.

  he warned brothers not to resent not being able to grow beards earlier if they had wished to do so.

  he also warned brothers who supported the old policy not to allow themselves to wonder what the point of doing so was now that it has changed.

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  BluesBrother

  Despite the seismic changes to their expectations for the future , re the resurrection and survival - the things that have really got them talking are the changes in dress and grooming. The othe stuff goes by with hardly a word .

  What does that show about them?
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  consequences for going against the direction.

  by jehovaxx in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are no serious consequences for doubting the gb.

  there are no consequences for going against the direction.

  we can now celebrate anything.. what will happen if you take blood, celebrate xmas and birthdays ect?.

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  BluesBrother

  We should not be too carried away by all this. The rules still apply and they are not going to be naive enough to accept repeated sins and declarations of repentance. Will it really be enough to mumble the word “ ok I’m sorry “ to be believed repentant? I doubt it.

  The change to the appeal committee is relevant but in practice the appeals that I seen turned over were in fact the case of the subject expressing their repentance better and in a different way at the appeal.

  The 3 month reinstating is a bit of farce . They remove a “wicked “ man in January and he is not wicked by April?

  All in all , it is a mess. And what with changes to the standards on dress and grooming , not long after the previous changes…. People are bamboozled.
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

  the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

  i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

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  BluesBrother

  I am sorry, but I just don’t but Redsetter2’s list of expected changes. All that about sex being tolerated and the end of conventions and his changes to appointments, ….. no it does not ring true . Some of the other stuff he spoke of is not banned anyway.

  However, like my fellow Brit St George of England, I am unlikely to still be alive in 10 years time so I won’t know.
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  GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

  the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

  summary: .

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  BluesBrother

  Hee Hee Hee… the older ones of my acquaintance are in high dudgeon over this. They hate the relaxation of standards.

  As for the greeting of d/fd , it is too much coincidence to ignore the pressure from outside, like Norway.

  When you think of the criticism we once got when young for dress and grooming, this is not like that organisation anymore. I pointed out that it has hardly turned out well for Churches when they try to be casual and trendy.
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  BluesBrother

  I think a little context needs explaining here . Those articles are clearly just advice for a healthy diet, based on what dietitians are saying at the time. It is certainly not a doctrinal thing or a WT belief . Most Witnesses would have missed it anyway.

  You can argue the rights and wrongs of what to eat, and people do. To the Witnesses it is no big deal.
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  Former Kingdom Hall is now a Swaminarayan Temple!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this former kingdom hall is now a hindu swaminarayan temple!

  to the far right of the picture, the two tower pillars are obvious by the red and green flags.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/d8e6115a .

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  BluesBrother

  I wonder if they sold it direct to the Hindus , or was it something else before?
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  the toll of being PIMO

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those of you who are pimo, how do you feel it may be effecting your mental and physical health?

  is it easy to pretend to be what you are not?

  how do you feel about falsely supporting the pimi which builds them up and therefore an org you don't believe in?

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  BluesBrother

  When I woke up to things I was an elder. I felt I could not quit “cold turkey” so fo a few months I carried on letting everyone know I was unhappy , depressed bla bla ….

  I felt terrible in that time . No one likes a hypocrite and that’s what I was . At the next C O visit I resigned and have lived quietly in the shadows ever since.