Yes , “today it hardly seems fair”… We can often say that about parts of the Bible . I don’t claim to know the answers but I am willing to accept that since I was not there and we have only sparse information, I am in no position to judge.
BluesBrother
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Did God know adam and eve would sin?
by gavindlt into all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..
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UK Blood Scandal inquiry findings
by ukpimo inhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-69025640.
how do you feel about this latest inquiry?
although we expect jehovah's witnesses to use this opportunity to say "we were right all this time", it's nonetheless a historic blow to the nhs.
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BluesBrother
This is really a two edged sword for JWs .
1) On the one hand it does support what we were told by WT , at the time that diseases such as AIDS and Hepatitis C can and were contracted from blood products.
2) On the other hand it shows that the blood fractions ,which they nowadays allow and seem to almost encourage, are just as liable to carry a disease, if one should be in it. . The haemophiliacs taking factor 8 were just as badly affected as anyone having a transfusion.
That fact seems lost on the JWs I know, who are too busy saying “ We told you so !”
They don’t want to know either…..
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Shocking health care article by JW.Org
by KerryKing inhttps://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20081115/maintain-a-scriptural-view-of-health-care/#p14.
seems to me like this is another damage control article, are vaccine injured jws causing a stir?
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BluesBrother
Please note that this article was published in 2008 , long before we had heard of Covid or there being any concerns over vaccines. I do not see anything different here to what they have said before.
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Branch dedication London
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ini’ve been invited to the dedication at chelmsford.. it’s crazy here, several thousand ex bethelites here for lots of events.
all hotels booked.
big marquee.
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BluesBrother
Have to say that the zoomed program yesterday was a total disaster in this house. The older dubs hated the opening video with grinning idiots doing building work .. The 2 hours that followed was just “ branch experiences “ and reports from other places … The result being that by the time Ken Cooke started his talk they were reduced to slumber or complete annoyance with it all .
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Branch dedication London
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ini’ve been invited to the dedication at chelmsford.. it’s crazy here, several thousand ex bethelites here for lots of events.
all hotels booked.
big marquee.
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BluesBrother
All congregations in the British branch area are to cancel the scheduled meeting this weekend and zoom into the Branch dedication event . It promises to be a 3 hour bladder marathon.
I am not looking forward to it . I am saddened by the razzmatazz that ExBethelite describes, sounds tacky and cheap . Any early updates would be appreciated, and a photo of that “courtroom”?
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Materialistic and Soon
by OnTheWayOut ini was reading a bart ehrman book, .
armageddon: what the bible really says about the end.
no, i won't bore you with complicated various theories i was reading.
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BluesBrother
Yes, it was just as soon when I was a lad in the ‘50s … I knew old ones then who had expected it decades earlier and Russell and his mates expected it in 1914 … we are still waiting.
I do agree with OTWO that the doctrine of the JW is a very material paradise . The ore recent videos they have made show this very clearly .
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Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores
by Sea Breeze inthe watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .
“how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!
besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.
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BluesBrother
Yes they did bring persecution on themselves by such things. However , that Watchtower was 1959 . That is 65 years ago . They have changed the tone of their message since then .
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1963 Resolution Condemning the United Nations
by Sea Breeze inquote from that world wide resolution: .
that, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to god’s messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the united nations, with international headquarters at new york city.
this international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men.
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BluesBrother
I think I remember this. As a teenager I was present at Twickenham when we did a resolution. The wording was so long and complicated that I lost the plot completely. At the end the speaker said “ All those in agreement shout ‘ Aye’” . So I shouted but had no idea what I was resolving to do…..
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Armageddon Car
by OnTheWayOut inhow many of you bought a nice sedan, suv, or even a minivan back in the days that you described as your "armageddon car" that you would care for and it would last until the end arrived?.
i was driving a 1974 plymouth volare wagon in 1992 when i managed to get an 8-year old buick century.
it was low mileage and had a very luxurious interior.
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BluesBrother
Great article that….one to show any 1975 deniers.
I never had an Armageddon car but I had Armageddon dental treatment. It was spring 1975 and I came home from the dentist and told my wife.. “ Well, that is the last time I shall ever have to go to the dentist! “
She gave me a withering look, as females can, and said that I should not be so sure about that. Of course she was right , as usual.
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2024-May-3rd-Announcement-and Transcripts!
by Atlantis in2024-05-may-03-announcement.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/faad3e3dtranscripts for 2024 governing body update #3englishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/ce4ae1d8germanhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/3bf805be spanishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/a4e3fd3b frenchhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/d37d5822 russianhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/71fe8f28 grandpa!
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BluesBrother
They use this illustration:-
“ To illustrate, imagine you were invited to a formal reception with government officials. How would you dress? Would you wear your pyjamas or something you would wear to the beach? Definitely not! We would want to dress in a way that showed respect for the occasion and for those present. How much more so when we worship Jehovah at the meetings”
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If that is the case , surely they should wear a collar and tie?
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